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vantexan

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Again, he didn’t win any cases, is it his fault or his lawyers?
His assertion is, it was rigged and stolen. I’ve already told you I’m willing to entertain that idea.. they clearly seem panicked, throwing mud at the wall to try and get some sort of conviction on him.

4 Years later, what has changed? what assurances are in place to not allow that happen again? Why would someone vote if they it can be stolen and be rigged? Do you not see how this whole process the last four years can disenfranchise people?

Do you believe it was rigged and stolen?
The cases weren't tried. They were thrown out. You have to try a case to lose it.
 

vantexan

Well-Known Member
Again, he didn’t win any cases, is it his fault or his lawyers?
His assertion is, it was rigged and stolen. I’ve already told you I’m willing to entertain that idea.. they clearly seem panicked, throwing mud at the wall to try and get some sort of conviction on him.

4 Years later, what has changed? what assurances are in place to not allow that happen again? Why would someone vote if they it can be stolen and be rigged? Do you not see how this whole process the last four years can disenfranchise people?

Do you believe it was rigged and stolen?
Trump definitely won't win if we throw up our hands and say what's the point. You want four more years of Democratic control?
 

Thebrownblob

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Trump definitely won't win if we throw up our hands and say what's the point. You want four more years of Democratic control?
And you still won’t answer my question. 🤷‍♂️ Do you believe the election was rigged or stolen?
If it was stolen,or rigged and the courts in those states were in on it, or there’s no lawyers good enough to challenge it, why do you think you’re going to win anyway?

Did Joe Biden get 80 million votes?
Personally, I would feel much better if he did legitimately get the votes because at least the process is fair, if it’s not you’re wasting your time.
 

Darmark7

Retired 2020. Not my Problem Anymore!
First time crossing is a civil infraction, not a crime.

Then why would Trump be promising to deport millions of people for just a civil infraction? That doesn’t sound right. I guess we should let them stay because no crime was committed.
 
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Next Day Err

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This might be true for “Legal immigrants” but not illegal border crossers.
You do realize that the word “illegal” as in illegal alien means “broke the law.” If a person does something “illegal” they have committed a crime. So 100% of the illegal aliens have committed a crime.
Them support the Senate immigration bill that would’ve added thousands more guards?
 

Darmark7

Retired 2020. Not my Problem Anymore!
Then support the Senate immigration bill that would’ve added thousands more guards?

No, I wouldn‘t support a bill that supports letting almost 2 million people cross the border each year. I’ll wait and hope for a better negotiator. A bad deal is worse than no deal. No deal can be changed in the future while a bad deal is a completed deal, but then the Dems and you know this.
 

Next Day Err

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Then why are they being let in? Most of these people are coming from developing nations. They don't have databases like we do. They aren't being checked. They aren't being checked for disease either. They aren't presenting passports.
They are checked for their criminal record and if they pass the check then they’re given a court date.
 

Next Day Err

Well-Known Member
No, I wouldn‘t support a bill that supports letting almost 2 million people cross the border each year. I’ll wait and hope for a better negotiator. A bad deal is worse than no deal. No deal can be changed in the future while a bad deal is a completed deal, but then the Dems and you know this.
The current bill that was killed would be a better law than the current law according to Republicans who are serious about this issue. Trump wanted it dead so he could say nothing was done.
 

Darmark7

Retired 2020. Not my Problem Anymore!
The current bill that was killed would be a better law than the current law according to Republicans who are serious about this issue. Trump wanted it dead so he could say nothing was done.

So next time the Union and UPS are negotiating a contract make sure the union takes the first offer and tells all the members that “the offer is better than what we currently have so we better take it.” Just stop already. You know exactly why the Dems wanted this bill to pass and why the Republicans (not just Trump) did not want the bill to pass.
 

DELACROIX

In the Spirit of Honore' Daumier
The current bill that was killed would be a better law than the current law according to Republicans who are serious about this issue. Trump wanted it dead so he could say nothing was done.

Nothing was done till it was an election year… same olde Democrats, ain’t they predictable..
 

burrheadd

KING Of GIFS
Where do you get that FOX News loves her? I see people on FOX mocking her. And Dems only love her up to the point that she becomes the nominee. If she ever managed that they'd turn on her in a heartbeat to support their candidate.
The only reason Dems were for Hailey was a vote against Orange Jesus Don’t worry come November we’ll get it squared away
 

Next Day Err

Well-Known Member
So next time the Union and UPS are negotiating a contract make sure the union takes the first offer and tells all the members that “the offer is better than what we currently have so we better take it.” Just stop already. You know exactly why the Dems wanted this bill to pass and why the Republicans (not just Trump) did not want the bill to pass.
Your argument is flawed. The Senate bill never even got debated in the House. It could've been made even more conservative and sent back to the Senate where it would've probably been accepted and signed by the President. The whole thing was tanked because of Trump. If not for him it would've been at least debated and amended in the House.

Trump sucks.
 

vantexan

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And you still won’t answer my question. 🤷‍♂️ Do you believe the election was rigged or stolen?
If it was stolen,or rigged and the courts in those states were in on it, or there’s no lawyers good enough to challenge it, why do you think you’re going to win anyway?

Did Joe Biden get 80 million votes?
Personally, I would feel much better if he did legitimately get the votes because at least the process is fair, if it’s not you’re wasting your time.
I have repeatedly said I don't know how many times that the election was rigged and stolen. What you're essentially saying is all elections going forward will be fraudulent. No accounting for more vigilance. No accounting for more minority support for Republicans. No accounting for third party candidates possibly pulling away 15+% of the vote. No accounting for the majority dissatisfaction with how they've been governed for the last four years. Elections matter. Why do you think they're trying to import so many new voters who are beholden to the Dems? If all the Dems had to do was rig every election then they wouldn't risk a public outcry from all the illegals. Seriously, you talk about how I don't understand how things work these days then say things like why bother, it's all rigged.
 
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Thebrownblob

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I have repeatedly said I don't know how many times that the election was rigged and stolen. What you're essentially saying is all elections going forward will be fraudulent. No accounting for more vigilance. No accounting for more minority support for Republicans. No accounting for third party candidates possibly pulling away 15+% of the vote. No accounting for the majority dissatisfaction with how they've been governed for the last four years. Elections matter. Why do you think they're trying to important so many new voters who are beholden to the Dems. If all the Dems had to do was rig every election then they wouldn't risk a public outcry from all the illegals. Seriously, you talk about how I don't understand how things work these days then say things like why bother, it's all rigged.
So in your opinion, it was rigged great thanks for the reply Now explain to me what vigilance has happened? If “ they” we’re able to rig it. There was no penalty. Why would they not continue? Absolutely nothing has changed. but somehow you believe in this election system now? Actually, you just made the argument of why you shouldn’t trust any of it and you’re wasting your time but go ahead if it makes you feel better but apparently you’ve admitted that they will do as they please and no one can stop them and if they even try, there’s a good chance their lies will be ruined. They’ll be thrown in jail, etc. etc..
 

Thebrownblob

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I have repeatedly said I don't know how many times that the election was rigged and stolen. What you're essentially saying is all elections going forward will be fraudulent. No accounting for more vigilance. No accounting for more minority support for Republicans. No accounting for third party candidates possibly pulling away 15+% of the vote. No accounting for the majority dissatisfaction with how they've been governed for the last four years. Elections matter. Why do you think they're trying to import so many new voters who are beholden to the Dems? If all the Dems had to do was rig every election then they wouldn't risk a public outcry from all the illegals. Seriously, you talk about how I don't understand how things work these days then say things like why bother, it's all rigged.
So the illegals are voting? Maybe they are.
 

Thebrownblob

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Republicans should keep talking like that if they don’t want Georgia back in the next election.
Exactly the presumptive Republican nominee has disenfranchised millions of people, saying the election was rigged and stolen. I’m not even even saying he’s not right I’m just saying he’s continuing to say it while also continue to act like voting matters. Am I not supposed to take him at his word?
 

vantexan

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So in your opinion, it was rigged great thanks for the reply Now explain to me what vigilance has happened? If “ they” we’re able to rig it. There was no penalty. Why would they not continue? Absolutely nothing has changed. but somehow you believe in this election system now? Actually, you just made the argument of why you shouldn’t trust any of it and you’re wasting your time but go ahead if it makes you feel better but apparently you’ve admitted that they will do as they please and no one can stop them and if they even try, there’s a good chance their lies will be ruined. They’ll be thrown in jail, etc. etc..
The election hasn't happened yet. You don't think the Republicans aren't going to have more observers out there watching everything? That they don't care enough to try much harder to insure a fair election? Tell me, if there's a civil war, and their side was half again bigger than our side, would you just throw up your hands and say no point in trying? Really?
 
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