President Obama!

klein

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When you make posts like this I start to wonder if your just a troll as I have a really hard time believing you are that stupid. When cuts are made in healthcare they affect somebody and or some certain group who needs that healthcare. Doctors don't work for free, and neither do the nurses or other required staffing for hospitals, offices, etc. The buildings, utilities, supplies(both medical and non medical), liability insurance, medicines, etc are not free. They are a cost, and those costs have to be made up somewhere. When incoming money is reduced outgoing services must be reduced along with it. Those reduced services may mean a longer wait for a cancer patient to be treated. Perhaps certain drugs are made unavailable to sustain the life of an elderly person, or a baby who will have severe longterm medical problems will not get the healthcare it needs to survive. These are the issues with government run healthcare, as the money becomes lessened so does the care and someone will die because of it. I know you won't agree with me on government run healthcare, but certainly an unemployed drunk can understand that changes have to be made in budgets when income is reduced or cut altogether.

Who said anything about cuts ????
Read the article.... it says "curb" costs !!!

Definition :

  1. A raised margin along an edge used to confine or strengthen.
  2. Something that checks or restrains: High interest rates put a curb on spending

Now I hope you get it.
Kinda like buying a programable Thermostat.. - no need to heat or a/c the home when at work.
Or buy a more fuel efficient car. No need to spend extra money on gas.

They simply wanna curb down the current increases in todays healthcare increases.
Heathcare cost are the most increasing costs, world wide. Larger then any other service or product on earth.
And there are ways to control those increases (which is part of "curbing").

Another good example is at home. You can curb down the cost of milk consumption for example. Instead of buying half a gallon of milk every week for $2.00. You buy a whole gallon of milk every other week for $2.50 !

If we only have a 5% increase in healthcare costs, rather then a forcasted 10% increase, then thats a success.

 

moreluck

golden ticket member
Re: Obamanation here today

So, where are all those people who said the financial recovery was working ?........they must be back behind the baseboards with the roaches!!
 

unionman

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Re: Obamanation here today

So, where are all those people who said the financial recovery was working ?........they must be back behind the baseboards with the roaches!!
This fall is about something else. The recovery is doing just fine until the nukes start flying.
 

1989

Well-Known Member
Who said anything about cuts ????
Read the article.... it says "curb" costs !!!

Definition :


  1. A raised margin along an edge used to confine or strengthen.
  2. Something that checks or restrains: High interest rates put a curb on spending

Now I hope you get it.
Kinda like buying a programable Thermostat.. - no need to heat or a/c the home when at work.
Or buy a more fuel efficient car. No need to spend extra money on gas.

They simply wanna curb down the current increases in todays healthcare increases.
Heathcare cost are the most increasing costs, world wide. Larger then any other service or product on earth.
And there are ways to control those increases (which is part of "curbing").

Another good example is at home. You can curb down the cost of milk consumption for example. Instead of buying half a gallon of milk every week for $2.00. You buy a whole gallon of milk every other week for $2.50 !

If we only have a 5% increase in healthcare costs, rather then a forcasted 10% increase, then thats a success.


Those numbers may work in the real world, but in obama's world...If we forecast an 8% unemployment rate and we get 10%, then that is a success.
 

Babagounj

Strength through joy
Now I know why Klien thinks Canada is so great;

CNews: HAMILTON, Ont. — A urinal shaped like a woman’s wide-open mouth has been flushed out of the men’s room of a Hamilton eatery restaurant opened in February 2007,following a nearly year-long public outcry.
 

bbsam

Moderator
Staff member
Now I know why Klien thinks Canada is so great;

CNews: HAMILTON, Ont. — A urinal shaped like a woman’s wide-open mouth has been flushed out of the men’s room of a Hamilton eatery restaurant opened in February 2007,following a nearly year-long public outcry.
Looks to me like the Mick Jagger fan club public restroom to me.
 

1989

Well-Known Member
Re: Obamanation here today

A little something for klein:
Las Vegas surpassed Orlando as the number 1 destination this summer.
 

brett636

Well-Known Member
Who said anything about cuts ????
Read the article.... it says "curb" costs !!!

Definition :


  1. A raised margin along an edge used to confine or strengthen.
  2. Something that checks or restrains: High interest rates put a curb on spending

Now I hope you get it.
Kinda like buying a programable Thermostat.. - no need to heat or a/c the home when at work.
Or buy a more fuel efficient car. No need to spend extra money on gas.

They simply wanna curb down the current increases in todays healthcare increases.
Heathcare cost are the most increasing costs, world wide. Larger then any other service or product on earth.
And there are ways to control those increases (which is part of "curbing").

Another good example is at home. You can curb down the cost of milk consumption for example. Instead of buying half a gallon of milk every week for $2.00. You buy a whole gallon of milk every other week for $2.50 !

If we only have a 5% increase in healthcare costs, rather then a forcasted 10% increase, then thats a success.


The government can only "curb" costs by refusing to pay market value for a service, procedure, or medicine. Here doctors are refusing to see Medicare patients in droves because the government keeps reducing what they pay that these doctors aren't even able to break even on the cost of treating Medicare patients. Sort of a death panel by proxy.
 

moreluck

golden ticket member
Re: Obamanation here today

April 29, 2010

A Stranger in Our Midst

By Robert Weissberg, Professor of Political Science - Emeritus at the University of Illinois, Urbana


As the Obama administration enters its second year, I -- and undoubtedly millions of others -- have struggled to develop a shorthand term that captures our emotional unease. Defining this discomfort is tricky. I reject nearly the entire Obama agenda, but the term "being opposed" lacks an emotional punch. Nor do terms like "worried" or "anxious" apply. I was more worried about America's future during the Johnson or Carter years, so it's not that dictionary, either. Nor, for that matter, is this about backroom odious deal-making and pork, which are endemic in American politics.

After auditioning countless political terms, I finally realized that the Obama administration and its congressional collaborators almost resemble a foreign occupying force, a coterie of politically and culturally non-indigenous leaders whose rule contravenes local values rooted in our national tradition. It is as if the United States has been occupied by a foreign power, and this transcends policy objections. It is not about Obama's birthplace. It is not about race, either; millions of white Americans have had black mayors and black governors, and this unease about out-of-synch values never surfaced.

The term I settled on is "alien rule" -- based on outsider values, regardless of policy benefits -- that generates agitation. This is what bloody anti-colonial strife was all about. No doubt, millions of Indians and Africans probably grasped that expelling the British guaranteed economic ruin and even worse governance, but at least the mess would be their mess. Just travel to Afghanistan and witness American military commanders' efforts to enlist tribal elders with promises of roads, clean water, dental clinics, and all else that America can freely provide. Many of these elders probably privately prefer abject poverty to foreign occupation since it would be their poverty, run by their people, according to their sensibilities.

This disquiet was a slow realization. Awareness began with Obama's odd pre-presidency associations, decades of being oblivious to Rev. Wright's anti-American ranting, his enduring friendship with the terrorist guy-in-the-neighborhood Bill Ayers, and the Saul Alinsky-flavored anti-capitalist community activism. Further add a hazy personal background -- an Indonesian childhood, shifting official names, and a paperless-trail climb through elite educational institutions.

None of this disqualified Obama from the presidency; rather, this background just doesn't fit with the conventional political résumé. It is just the "outsider" quality that alarms. For all the yammering about George W. Bush's privileged background, his made-in-the-USA persona was absolutely indisputable. John McCain might be embarrassed about his Naval Academy class rank and iffy combat performance, but there was never any doubt of his authenticity. Countless conservatives despised Bill Clinton, but nobody ever, ever doubted his good-old-boy American bonafides.

The suspicion that Obama is an outsider, a figure who really doesn't "get" America, grew clearer from his initial appointments. What "native" would appoint Kevin Jennings, a militant gay activist, to oversee school safety? Or permit a Marxist rabble-rouser to be a "green jobs czar"? How about an Attorney General who began by accusing Americans of cowardice when it comes to discussing race? And who can forget Obama's weird defense of his pal Louis Henry Gates from "racist" Cambridge, Massachusetts cops? If the American Revolution had never occurred and the Queen had appointed Obama Royal Governor (after his distinguished service in Kenya), a trusted locally attuned aide would have first whispered in his ear, "Mr. Governor General, here in America, we do not automatically assume that the police were at fault," and the day would have been saved.

And then there's the "we are sorry, we'll never be arrogant again" rhetoric seemingly designed for a future President of the World election campaign. What made Obama's Cairo utterances so distressing was how they grated on American cultural sensibilities. And he just doesn't notice, perhaps akin to never hearing Rev. Wright anti-American diatribes. An American president does not pander to third-world audiences by lying about the Muslim contribution to America. Imagine Ronald Reagan, or any past American president, trying to win friends by apologizing. This appeal contravenes our national character and far exceeds a momentary embarrassment about garbled syntax or poor delivery. Then there's Obama's bizarre, totally unnecessary deep bowing to foreign potentates. Americans look foreign leaders squarely in the eye and firmly shake hands; we don't bow.

But far worse is Obama's tone-deafness about American government. How can any ordinary American, even a traditional liberal, believe that jamming through unpopular, debt-expanding legislation that consumes one-sixth of our GDP, sometimes with sly side-payments and with a thin majority, will eventually be judged legitimate? This is third-world, maximum-leader-style politics. That the legislation was barely understood even by its defenders and vehemently championed by a representative of that typical American city, San Francisco, only exacerbates the strangeness. And now President Obama sides with illegal aliens over the State of Arizona, which seeks to enforce the federal immigration law to protect American citizens from marauding drug gangs and other miscreants streaming in across the Mexican border.

Reciprocal public disengagement from President Obama is strongly suggested by recent poll data on public trust in government. According to a recent Pew report, only 22% of those asked trust the government always or most of the time, among the lowest figures in half a century. And while pro-government support has been slipping for decades, the Obama presidency has sharply exacerbated this drop. To be sure, many factors (in particular the economic downturn) contribute to this decline, but remember that Obama was recently elected by an often wildly enthusiastic popular majority. The collapse of trust undoubtedly transcends policy quibbles or a sluggish economy -- it is far more consistent with a deeper alienation.

Perhaps the clearest evidence for this "foreigner in our midst" mentality is the name given our resistance -- tea parties, an image that instantly invokes the American struggle against George III, a clueless foreign ruler from central casting. This history-laden label was hardly predetermined, but it instantly stuck (as did the election of Sen. Scott Brown as "the shot heard around the world" and tea partiers dressing up in colonial-era costumes). Perhaps subconsciously, Obama does remind Americans of when the U.S. was really occupied by a foreign power. A Declaration of Independence passage may still resonate: "HE [George III] has erected a Multitude of new Offices [Czars], and sent hither Swarms of Officers [recently hired IRS agents] to harass our People, and eat out the Substance." What's next?


 

moreluck

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Re: Obamanation here today

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moreluck

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Re: Obamanation here today

A very compelling read!

Anatomy of a Failing President....


An article from American Thinker by Geoffrey P. Hunt


The following is an interesting article. You might ask how long Dr. Hunt can remain at NIH once the White House gets wind of this article.


Dr. Hunt is a social and cultural anthropologist. He has had nearly 30 years experience in planning, conducting, and managing research in the field of youth studies, and drug and alcohol research. Currently Dr. Hunt is a Senior Research Scientist at the Institute for Scientific Analysis and the Principal Investigator on three National Institutes on Health projects. He is also a writer for American Thinker.


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An article from American Thinker by Geoffrey P. Hunt


Anatomy of a Failing Presidency


Barack Obama is on track to have the most spectacularly failed presidency since Woodrow Wilson. In the modern era, we've seen several failed presidencies--led by Jimmy Carter and LBJ. Failed presidents have one strong common trait-- they are repudiated, in the vernacular, spat out. Of course, LBJ wisely took the exit ramp early, avoiding a shove into oncoming traffic by his own party. Richard Nixon indeed resigned in disgrace, yet his reputation as a statesman has been partially restored by his triumphant overture to China 20.


But, Barack Obama is failing. Failing big. Failing fast. And failing everywhere: foreign policy, domestic initiatives, and most importantly, in forging connections with the American people. The incomparable Dorothy Rabinowitz in the Wall Street Journal put her finger on it: He is failing because he has no understanding of the American people, and may indeed loathe them. Fred Barnes of the Weekly Standard says he is failing because he has lost control of his message, and is overexposed. Clarice Feldman of American Thinker produced a dispositive commentary showing that Obama is failing because fundamentally he is neither smart nor articulate; his intellectual dishonesty is conspicuous by its audacity and lack of shame.


But, there is something more seriously wrong: How could a new president riding in on a wave of unprecedented promise and goodwill have forfeited his tenure and become a lame duck in six months? His poll ratings are in free fall. In generic balloting, the Republicans have now seized a five point advantage. This truly is unbelievable. What's going on?


No narrative. Obama doesn't have a narrative. No, not a narrative about himself. He has a self-narrative, much of it fabricated, cleverly disguised or written by someone else. But this self-narrative is isolated and doesn't connect with us. He doesn't have an American narrative that draws upon the rest of us. All successful presidents have a narrative about the American character that intersects with their own where they display a command of history and reveal an authenticity at the core of their personality that resonates in a positive endearing way with the majority of Americans. We admire those presidents whose narratives not only touch our own, but who seem stronger, wiser, and smarter than we are. Presidents we admire are aspirational peers, even those whose politics don't align exactly with our own: Teddy Roosevelt, FDR, Harry Truman, Ike, and Reagan.


But not this president. It's not so much that he's a phony, knows nothing about economics, and is historically illiterate and woefully small minded for the size of the task--all contributory of course. It's that he's not one of us. And whatever he is, his profile is fuzzy and devoid of content, like a cardboard cutout made from delaminated corrugated paper. Moreover, he doesn't command our respect and is unable to appeal to our own common sense. His notions of right and wrong are repugnant and how things work just don't add up. They are not existential. His descriptions of the world we live in don't make sense and don't correspond with our experience.


In the meantime, while we've been struggling to take a measurement of this man, he's dissed just about every one of us--financiers, energy producers, banks, insurance executives, police officers, doctors, nurses, hospital administrators, post office workers, and anybody else who has a non-green job. Expect Obama to lament at his last press conference in 2012: "For those of you I offended, I apologize. For those of you who were not offended, you just didn't give me enough time; if only I'd had a second term, I could have offended you too."


Mercifully, the Founders at the Constitutional Convention in 1787 devised a useful remedy for such a desperate state--staggered terms for both houses of the legislature and the executive. An equally abominable Congress can get voted out next year. With a new Congress, there's always hope of legislative gridlock until we vote for president again two short years after that.


Yes, small presidents do fail, Barack Obama among them. The coyotes howl but the wagon train keeps rolling along.


Margaret Thatcher: "The trouble with Socialism is, sooner or later you run out of other people's money."


"When you subsidize poverty and failure, you get more of both." - James Dale Davidson, National Taxpayers Union


"The more corrupt the state, the more it legislates." - Tacitus


"A Liberal is a person who will give away everything he doesn't own." - Unknown
 

moreluck

golden ticket member
Re: Obamanomics

I am just so pleased with the beautiful recovery taking place with our financial entities. Obama has done a great job in helping the market recover and making new jobs for all the Americans who want to work......Help !! I'm hallucinating!!! Slap me out of it!:happy-very:
 

Lue C Fur

Evil member
Re: Obamanomics

I am just so pleased with the beautiful recovery taking place with our financial entities. Obama has done a great job in helping the market recover and making new jobs for all the Americans who want to work......Help !! I'm hallucinating!!! Slap me out of it!:happy-very:

Oh no you didnt!!!! You drank the Obama Kool-aid...hurry...stick a finger down your throat!!!!

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