Babagounj
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Why should a healthy person have to be fined for not wanting to acquire health care ?
And they wanted the fine paid in full.
This law only applies to tax paying citizens.
To date no one has challenged this in court.
President Obama!
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And they wanted the fine paid in full.
This law only applies to tax paying citizens.
To date no one has challenged this in court.
klein
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Re: Obamanomics
Did you folks see the record profits GM posted today ?
Largest profit in over 6 years !
GM profits surge past $1 bln as IPO looms
Did you folks see the record profits GM posted today ?
Largest profit in over 6 years !
GM profits surge past $1 bln as IPO looms
Lue C Fur
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klein
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Re: Obamanomics
No, I don't buy new cars, but I believe many will buy it.
The savings on gas and oil, including maintanence will probably make up for the original price within 10years max.
But, yes, they will come down in price as production goes up, and parts get cheaper to build them.
There are a lot of enviromentally people out there, that will probably purchase one.
Look how organic fruits and veggies are selling, even though they cost much more.
To never visit a gas station ever again. It might just be worth that price. Esspecially now after that huge oil spill, a lot of people are blamming there dependency on oil.
We shall see. It's difinitly a move in the right direction !
Besides all that, I wouldn't be a bit surprised if those vehichles come with some sort of tax breaks (government subsidies).
They have done it before with hybrids and home renovations to make your home more energy effecient. (new windows, water heaters, furnaces, etc)
No, I don't buy new cars, but I believe many will buy it.
The savings on gas and oil, including maintanence will probably make up for the original price within 10years max.
But, yes, they will come down in price as production goes up, and parts get cheaper to build them.
There are a lot of enviromentally people out there, that will probably purchase one.
Look how organic fruits and veggies are selling, even though they cost much more.
To never visit a gas station ever again. It might just be worth that price. Esspecially now after that huge oil spill, a lot of people are blamming there dependency on oil.
We shall see. It's difinitly a move in the right direction !
Besides all that, I wouldn't be a bit surprised if those vehichles come with some sort of tax breaks (government subsidies).
They have done it before with hybrids and home renovations to make your home more energy effecient. (new windows, water heaters, furnaces, etc)
Lue C Fur
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Lue C Fur
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Re: Obamanomics
Tim "tax cheat" Geitner recently said that unemployment will most likely go up more before in goes down:
http://www.youtube.com/user/newsbusted#p/a
Tim "tax cheat" Geitner recently said that unemployment will most likely go up more before in goes down:
http://www.youtube.com/user/newsbusted#p/a
UpstateNYUPSer(Ret)
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Re: Obamanomics
Lue C Fur, only one of the two models you mentioned has a gasoline engine. I believe it is the Volt.
You are right about the $7,500 tax credit.
I may have to test drive one when they come out. I have test driven a Prius--very nice car with surprising pickup. The display shows your current MPG at all times and whether you are drawing power or storing power (from the brakes).
Dave Ramsey would have a fit but I may be going car shopping this weekend.
Lue C Fur, only one of the two models you mentioned has a gasoline engine. I believe it is the Volt.
You are right about the $7,500 tax credit.
I may have to test drive one when they come out. I have test driven a Prius--very nice car with surprising pickup. The display shows your current MPG at all times and whether you are drawing power or storing power (from the brakes).
Dave Ramsey would have a fit but I may be going car shopping this weekend.
klein
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Re: Obamanomics
Lucy, I did need to check out the Volt online :
The Chevrolet Volt is the first vehicle of GM's second century. That's how GM Chairman and CEO Rick Wagoner presented it, anyway, at a 100th birthday celebration the automaker was throwing for itself. The highly anticipated unveiling of the production Volt revealed a car that's not styled as aggressively as the concept version, but one the company says lives up to the original promise of delivering 40 miles of range on electricity alone. Describing it as an Extended-Range Electric Vehicle, or E-REV, the Volt features 220 lithium-ion cells that can be fully charged in eight hours with a standard 120-volt outlet or three hours using a 240-volt outlet, at a cost of about 80 cents, according to GM. When the battery's energy is depleted, a gasoline-powered generator simultaneously powers the drive unit and charges the battery, extending range by "several hundred" miles.
Basically, if you are a regular driver, that uses the car, more or less , just to go to work, and do some shopping, etc (city miles). You'll never end up buying gas !
40 miles is plenty, and only costs 80 cents of kilowatts to fill it up !
And still has a top speed of 100 miles per hr !
Lucy, I did need to check out the Volt online :
The Chevrolet Volt is the first vehicle of GM's second century. That's how GM Chairman and CEO Rick Wagoner presented it, anyway, at a 100th birthday celebration the automaker was throwing for itself. The highly anticipated unveiling of the production Volt revealed a car that's not styled as aggressively as the concept version, but one the company says lives up to the original promise of delivering 40 miles of range on electricity alone. Describing it as an Extended-Range Electric Vehicle, or E-REV, the Volt features 220 lithium-ion cells that can be fully charged in eight hours with a standard 120-volt outlet or three hours using a 240-volt outlet, at a cost of about 80 cents, according to GM. When the battery's energy is depleted, a gasoline-powered generator simultaneously powers the drive unit and charges the battery, extending range by "several hundred" miles.
Basically, if you are a regular driver, that uses the car, more or less , just to go to work, and do some shopping, etc (city miles). You'll never end up buying gas !
40 miles is plenty, and only costs 80 cents of kilowatts to fill it up !
And still has a top speed of 100 miles per hr !
Lue C Fur
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Re: Obamanomics
Sounds like you would better off with the Nissan then:
http://www.nissanusa.com/leaf-elect...654.&dcc=0.216879861#/leaf-electric-car/index
Lucy, I did need to check out the Volt online :
The Chevrolet Volt is the first vehicle of GM's second century. That's how GM Chairman and CEO Rick Wagoner presented it, anyway, at a 100th birthday celebration the automaker was throwing for itself. The highly anticipated unveiling of the production Volt revealed a car that's not styled as aggressively as the concept version, but one the company says lives up to the original promise of delivering 40 miles of range on electricity alone. Describing it as an Extended-Range Electric Vehicle, or E-REV, the Volt features 220 lithium-ion cells that can be fully charged in eight hours with a standard 120-volt outlet or three hours using a 240-volt outlet, at a cost of about 80 cents, according to GM. When the battery's energy is depleted, a gasoline-powered generator simultaneously powers the drive unit and charges the battery, extending range by "several hundred" miles.
Basically, if you are a regular driver, that uses the car, more or less , just to go to work, and do some shopping, etc (city miles). You'll never end up buying gas !
40 miles is plenty, and only costs 80 cents of kilowatts to fill it up !
And still has a top speed of 100 miles per hr !
Sounds like you would better off with the Nissan then:
http://www.nissanusa.com/leaf-elect...654.&dcc=0.216879861#/leaf-electric-car/index
klein
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Re: Obamanomics
It's only 7K less then the Volt, and looks like a piece of crap !
Besides a seperate gas engine would come in handy for trips to the Rockies or even visit my relatives 100 miles away.
Which does recharge the battery while on gas drive.
It's only 7K less then the Volt, and looks like a piece of crap !
Besides a seperate gas engine would come in handy for trips to the Rockies or even visit my relatives 100 miles away.
Which does recharge the battery while on gas drive.
klein
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Re: Obamanomics
actually, I learned about the turtle problem in Florida on Highway A1A.
They have signs on the road.. "Turtle crossing"
It is a problem there.
They are protected animals.
We , in Canada, have built tunnels and over passes on the Trans Canada Highway for wildlife.
So... nothing against that. Better then them being run over all the time... (ofcourse large wildlife does much more damage).
actually, I learned about the turtle problem in Florida on Highway A1A.
They have signs on the road.. "Turtle crossing"
It is a problem there.
They are protected animals.
We , in Canada, have built tunnels and over passes on the Trans Canada Highway for wildlife.
So... nothing against that. Better then them being run over all the time... (ofcourse large wildlife does much more damage).
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Re: Obamanomics
and of course those in Canada living the wild life can cause a lot of damage too.
and of course those in Canada living the wild life can cause a lot of damage too.
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Re: Obamanomics
Let me give you an example of two Canadians living the wild life. I have a video of Klein visiting his friend. Klein makes his appearance about 17 seconds into the video.
Let me give you an example of two Canadians living the wild life. I have a video of Klein visiting his friend. Klein makes his appearance about 17 seconds into the video.
Babagounj
Strength through joy
Re: Obamanomics
http://thehill.com/homenews/house/1...-food-stamp-cuts-to-fund-child-nutrition-bill
Dems may use food stamp money to pay for Michelle Obama's nutrition initiative
By Russell Berman - 08/14/10 06:00 AM ET
Democrats who reluctantly slashed a food stamp program to fund a state aid bill may have to do so again to pay for a top priority of first lady Michelle Obama.
The House will soon consider an $8 billion child nutrition bill that’s at the center of the first lady’s “Let’s Move” initiative. Before leaving for the summer recess, the Senate passed a smaller version of the legislation that is paid for by trimming the Supplemental Nutrition Assistance Program, commonly known as food stamps.
http://thehill.com/homenews/house/1...-food-stamp-cuts-to-fund-child-nutrition-bill
Dems may use food stamp money to pay for Michelle Obama's nutrition initiative
By Russell Berman - 08/14/10 06:00 AM ET
Democrats who reluctantly slashed a food stamp program to fund a state aid bill may have to do so again to pay for a top priority of first lady Michelle Obama.
The House will soon consider an $8 billion child nutrition bill that’s at the center of the first lady’s “Let’s Move” initiative. Before leaving for the summer recess, the Senate passed a smaller version of the legislation that is paid for by trimming the Supplemental Nutrition Assistance Program, commonly known as food stamps.
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