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[specter208]

Is 9.5 punch to punch? Are meal and break periods included in the 9.5 hours?

 

[IVE GOTTA PACKAGE 4U]

Is 9.5 punch to punch? Are meal and break periods included in the 9.5 hours?

Meal isn't

 

[Trucker Clock]

The current 9.5 language they've agreed to won't even slow them down. It will be 5 more years of excessive OT.

Maybe. But the Company will never agree to not force anyone to work over 9.5. And the Union cannot force the company to do it.

The only thing the Union can do, and UPS reluctantly agreed to, is to make a penalty for it to "compensate" the driver. The Union is trying to make it cost prohibitive to UPS to force drivers past 9.5 except for unforeseen circumstances.

What good is 9.5 when your start time is 9:30

Not every job is 9-5. It might suck getting home at 8 or 9 at night, but that is the job. We cannot force UPS to start us earlier. If you wanted to make your kids baseball games after school, you picked the wrong job.

You start at 9:30 because UPS cannot get the trailers there and unloaded and processed sooner, for one reason or another. It would be nice to start at 8 and be home by 6 or 7, but that is pretty much dreaming.

I can confidently state the current 9.5 language was pretty effective at slowing them down.

Same here. It reduced the over 9.5 immensely. I don't think it will ever go away, but at $160/hr, I'll put up with it a little bit. Money is not everything, but I think it will continue to get better if the new language goes into effect.

 

[BlackCat]

If you wanted to make your kids baseball games after school, you picked the wrong job.

Thats bull.

It wasnt this way even 15 years ago. We allowed it to be this way.

 

[govols019]

Thats bull.

It wasnt this way even 15 years ago. We allowed it to be this way

Yes, it was....it's always been this way.

 

[BlackCat]

Yes, it was....it's always been this way.

except it hasn't.

I would come back "late" at 5:30 and the vast majority of drivers were already punched out.

 

[9.5mania]

Thats bull.

It wasnt this way even 15 years ago. We allowed it to be this way.

We didn't, technology did. Back in the day when preloaders actually wrote down stop counts, it was nothing to get off early (I received lots of breakfast on Friday mornings to write an extra 15 to stop count). Now, management sees everything we are doing and can dispatch with accuracy. Thats when the early days officially died.

 

[govols019]

except it hasn't.

I would come back "late" at 5:30 and the vast majority of drivers were already punched out.

I want to work in your bubble of goodness.

 

[BlackCat]

We didn't, technology did. Back in the day when preloaders actually wrote down stop counts, it was nothing to get off early (I received lots of breakfast on Friday mornings to write an extra 15 to stop count). Now, management sees everything we are doing and can dispatch with accuracy. Thats when the early days officially died.

oh I agree.

8 AM start was perfect.

If you got done too early, you could put a couple dozen stops in pre-record and close them out at random intervals.

 

[BlackCat]

I want to work in your bubble of goodness.

8 am start with no orion (really meant edd) and no gps? yeah that was goodness.

 

[charm299]

We didn't, technology did. Back in the day when preloaders actually wrote down stop counts, it was nothing to get off early (I received lots of breakfast on Friday mornings to write an extra 15 to stop count). Now, management sees everything we are doing and can dispatch with accuracy. Thats when the early days officially died.

Dispatch with accuracy?

 

[Brownslave688]

Thats bull.

It wasnt this way even 15 years ago. We allowed it to be this way.

My best friends dad start in the mid 80’s. I knew growing up he rarely made games before 8 pm and ate dinner alone.

This is not new.

 

[govols019]

8 am start with no orion (really meant edd) and no gps? yeah that was goodness.

I'm in my 4th decade here...this has never been a be off in time to catch the start of a kids game job.

 

[BlackCat]

My best friends dad start in the mid 80’s. I knew growing up he rarely made games before 8 pm and ate dinner alone.

This is not new.

40 years ago supper time was 5 pm. Eat dinner and catch an episode of threes company.

 

[charm299]

My best friends dad start in the mid 80’s. I knew growing up he rarely made games before 8 pm and ate dinner alone.

This is not new.

My dad is a retired ups driver, he made almost all my games in the 80s if he didn’t take the airport run for over time.

 

[Brownslave688]

40 years ago supper time was 5 pm. Eat dinner and catch an episode of threes company.

My entire life we ate dinner at 5:30. I’m 40 years old. We always ate earlier than any of my friends did.

 

[Memester]

My entire life we ate dinner at 5:30. I’m 40 years old. We always ate earlier than any of my friends did.

 

[Coldworld]

Tune in to catch Janet and Chrissy in their daisy dukes and tube tops? @BlackCat

 

[TheBrownNote]

Currently it’s good for double the pay if you’re violated. If you’re expecting the next contract to dictate start times, you’ll be disappointed.

Nope. Never expect that.

 

[9.5mania]

Dispatch with accuracy?

Touché my friend!!