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FromOffTheStreets

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One of the key verses that pre-mill misses is in Matt. 24:34
Much, but not all the language in Matt 24 is figurative and it represents judgement, notice.."Truly, I say to you, this generation will not pass away until all these things take place" What ever is in Matt 24 up to V34 has already happenened. That generation Jesus was talking to seen it happen. What they seen was the destruction of Jerusalem in 70AD. Judgement because they rejected the Christ.
A key to understanding Matt. 24 is looking at the questions asked by the disciples in V3. They were asking 2 different questions but didn't even know it. They thought if the temple was destroyed, it had to be the end of the world.
Jesus begins to answer in V35 about the end of the world and how things will be, before that, he is talking about Jerusalem's destruction.
Read it and notice the difference. Warning after warning. Instruction what to do. Sign after sign. When you see these things. Drop everything. Flee to the mountains.
Then after V34..There won't be any warning ...When the Son of Man comes it will be just like the days of Noah..party on Garth..No sign given..Paul says like a thief in the night....
Two questions...two answers
He's actually prophesying the destruction of Jerusalem in most of Matt 24 I believe.
Some of that chapter may be about the end though
 

floridays

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Did Saul have his sins "washed away" in this verse ?
"And now what are you waiting for? Get up, be baptized, and wash your sins away, calling on His name.’' -Acts 22:16
Quite frankly I don't know when Saul believed on Jesus, I'm not sure when his sins were washed away.

We do know that Saul knew who Jesus was before the encounter on the road to Damascus and we do know there is no documentation of the gospel being shared with him in that encounter.

We also know this

Romans 10:13​


“For whosoever shall call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved.”
 

BrownFlush

Woke Racist Reigning Ban King
@FromOffTheStreets
Ezekiel wrote his book while in the 70 years of Babylonian captivity. Ezekiel tells why the people were taken into captivity in chapter 36. In chapter 37, the anguish and desperation and sense of utter desolation of the Jews suffering in slavery. After Solomon died, the Kingdom had divided and there they were. He promised them that God had not forgotten them and that he would give them relief and return them to their land.
Ezra and Nehemiah describe the return to the land. The Persian ruler said all who called upon Jehovah could go back. After that return, they were united as one civic body until the time that Jesus walked on the earth.. They had had their religius and political differences, but they were not divided into two nations again.
Ezekiel prophecy of a return to the land of Palestine was fulfilled hundreds of years before Jesus came to earth and gave us the New Testament.
In dying on the cross he broke down the wall of partition between Jew and Gentile--Eph. 2
There is no longer a fleshly Jew or a Gentile in God's scheme of redemption provided in the New Testament. Upon obedience to the gospel , one is added to the church-Acts 2 All are one who is in Christ Jesus-- Gal.3. The church is is the Kingdom.- Col 1. It is the spiritual kingdom.The Jew wanted a physical king to bring Israel back to the glory days.They killed Jesus when he refused.
To say that Jesus came to do that(Pre-mill physical king)but failed (My kingdom is not of this world)because they killed him, and plan b is the physical reign for a thousand years is not in the scripture. The eternal plan and mission of God to save men through His son wasn't accomplished because of men? ok..smh
There is no scripture or prophecy concerning this nation now formed in Palestine. Non.
Pre-mill gives the gospel and the Christian dispensation and put's the Lord's church kinda in a place of unimportance and not really that significant.
Jesus will never set foot on this earth again. The clouds are as close as he will get when every eye shall behold him and every knee shall bow. Let the Judgement Day begin.
The great Jewish millennium to come? Ain't gonna happen.
 

FromOffTheStreets

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@FromOffTheStreets
Ezekiel wrote his book while in the 70 years of Babylonian captivity. Ezekiel tells why the people were taken into captivity in chapter 36. In chapter 37, the anguish and desperation and sense of utter desolation of the Jews suffering in slavery. After Solomon died, the Kingdom had divided and there they were. He promised them that God had not forgotten them and that he would give them relief and return them to their land.
Ezra and Nehemiah describe the return to the land. The Persian ruler said all who called upon Jehovah could go back. After that return, they were united as one civic body until the time that Jesus walked on the earth.. They had had their religius and political differences, but they were not divided into two nations again.
Ezekiel prophecy of a return to the land of Palestine was fulfilled hundreds of years before Jesus came to earth and gave us the New Testament.
In dying on the cross he broke down the wall of partition between Jew and Gentile--Eph. 2
There is no longer a fleshly Jew or a Gentile in God's scheme of redemption provided in the New Testament. Upon obedience to the gospel , one is added to the church-Acts 2 All are one who is in Christ Jesus-- Gal.3. The church is is the Kingdom.- Col 1. It is the spiritual kingdom.The Jew wanted a physical king to bring Israel back to the glory days.They killed Jesus when he refused.
To say that Jesus came to do that(Pre-mill physical king)but failed (My kingdom is not of this world)because they killed him, and plan b is the physical reign for a thousand years is not in the scripture. The eternal plan and mission of God to save men through His son wasn't accomplished because of men? ok..smh
There is no scripture or prophecy concerning this nation now formed in Palestine. Non.
Pre-mill gives the gospel and the Christian dispensation and put's the Lord's church kinda in a place of unimportance and not really that significant.
Jesus will never set foot on this earth again. The clouds are as close as he will get when every eye shall behold him and every knee shall bow. Let the Judgement Day begin.
The great Jewish millennium to come? Ain't gonna happen.
What is Zechariah 14 about?
 

floridays

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How did he did that?
Holler real loud?
Cell phone?
I thought you were the "only" scripture guy.

You can't accept when someone offers an answer to your questions.

Why don't you offer that same question to the Lord, this came from His inspired word:

Romans 10:13​


“For whosoever shall call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved.”


BrownFlush 1:1
"For whosoever is Baptized in water and maintains good works may be saved."
 

BrownFlush

Woke Racist Reigning Ban King
I thought you were the "only" scripture guy.

You can't accept when someone offers an answer to your questions.

Why don't you offer that same question to the Lord, this came from His inspired word:

Romans 10:13​


“For whosoever shall call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved.”


BrownFlush 1:1
"For whosoever is Baptized in water and maintains good works may be saved."
I ask HOW that is done?
You know, calling on the name of the Lord?
How did Saul do it?
 

oldngray

nowhere special
@FromOffTheStreets
Ezekiel wrote his book while in the 70 years of Babylonian captivity. Ezekiel tells why the people were taken into captivity in chapter 36. In chapter 37, the anguish and desperation and sense of utter desolation of the Jews suffering in slavery. After Solomon died, the Kingdom had divided and there they were. He promised them that God had not forgotten them and that he would give them relief and return them to their land.
Ezra and Nehemiah describe the return to the land. The Persian ruler said all who called upon Jehovah could go back. After that return, they were united as one civic body until the time that Jesus walked on the earth.. They had had their religius and political differences, but they were not divided into two nations again.
Ezekiel prophecy of a return to the land of Palestine was fulfilled hundreds of years before Jesus came to earth and gave us the New Testament.
In dying on the cross he broke down the wall of partition between Jew and Gentile--Eph. 2
There is no longer a fleshly Jew or a Gentile in God's scheme of redemption provided in the New Testament. Upon obedience to the gospel , one is added to the church-Acts 2 All are one who is in Christ Jesus-- Gal.3. The church is is the Kingdom.- Col 1. It is the spiritual kingdom.The Jew wanted a physical king to bring Israel back to the glory days.They killed Jesus when he refused.
To say that Jesus came to do that(Pre-mill physical king)but failed (My kingdom is not of this world)because they killed him, and plan b is the physical reign for a thousand years is not in the scripture. The eternal plan and mission of God to save men through His son wasn't accomplished because of men? ok..smh
There is no scripture or prophecy concerning this nation now formed in Palestine. Non.
Pre-mill gives the gospel and the Christian dispensation and put's the Lord's church kinda in a place of unimportance and not really that significant.
Jesus will never set foot on this earth again. The clouds are as close as he will get when every eye shall behold him and every knee shall bow. Let the Judgement Day begin.
The great Jewish millennium to come? Ain't gonna happen.
Zec 14:4 And His feet shall stand in that day on the Mount of Olives, which is before Jerusalem on the east, and the Mount of Olives shall divide from its middle, from the east and to the west, a very great valley. And half of the mountain shall move toward the north, and half of it toward the south.

Sounds pretty clear to me that yes, His feet will be on the ground.
 

BrownFlush

Woke Racist Reigning Ban King
Zec 14:4 And His feet shall stand in that day on the Mount of Olives, which is before Jerusalem on the east, and the Mount of Olives shall divide from its middle, from the east and to the west, a very great valley. And half of the mountain shall move toward the north, and half of it toward the south.

Sounds pretty clear to me that yes, His feet will be on the ground.
It sure was.
2000 years ago.
 
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