religion

[Integrity]

You can’t be a Protestant and Roman Catholic unless you mean catholic in the apostle creed sense.

Yes I can.

but I also do mean it in that sense as well.

 

[Pullman Brown]

Why ironic?

I have admitted the Bible is a part of my religious life. I firmly believe spiritual princess of of God and lessons can be learned from the reading of the Bible. I just find equating the Bible, a religious book with a perfect God is something that I cannot do.

CMA has a higher view of Scripture then this!

 

[vantexan]

I do find it useful for instruction.

Yes you are.

That is just not true.

The Father reveals not the Bible.

It is my experience and observation that it is contingent upon one’s faith as to the nearness and the intimate conversation that happens between the believer and God.

I suspect if one doesn’t believe and have the faith that they will hear from God, it is unlikely that they will hear and very clearly. If you open up to the idea that he wants to speak to you and believe that he will I suspect he will hear him more clearly.

Don’t take my word for it sincerely try it see what happens.

Where have I said the Bible is the equivalent of God?

OK, take the Bible completely out of existence. How do we know about God? You say God reveals himself to you. Apparently he's only revealed himself to you and maybe a few others because most people learned of him through study of the Scriptures. But no more. The Bible no longer exists. So will God now reveal himself to everyone?

 

[Pullman Brown]

Yes I can.

but I also do mean it in that sense as well.

You are clearly showing your ignorance!

 

[Thebrownblob]

Where have I said the Bible is the equivalent of God?

OK, take the Bible completely out of existence. How do we know about God? You say God reveals himself to you. Apparently he's only revealed himself to you and maybe a few others because most people learned of him through study of the Scriptures. But no more. The Bible no longer exists. So will God now reveal himself to everyone?

Might as well be a Scientologist.

 

[vantexan]

If you don’t live exactly as Jesus lived, you have missed the mark you sinned. Thankfully, I claim Jesus‘s perfect life as my own and allow his righteousness to live through me by the power of the Holy Spirit as God enables..

You are not.perfect. Furthermore Jesus never married. Should we all be unmarried and celibate?

 

[Integrity]

You are clearly showing your ignorance!

Please explain.

Isn’t it more ignorant to make claims about another person‘s life that you know nothing about?

 

[Thebrownblob]

If you don’t live exactly as Jesus lived, you have missed the mark you sinned. Thankfully, I claim Jesus‘s perfect life as my own and allow his righteousness to live through me by the power of the Holy Spirit as God enables..

Are you suggesting you’re living a perfect life?

Jesus was able to go and be around the worst people of his time, including prostitutes, tax collectors, and criminals.

But he was able to go and be around them and change their hearts. Not tell them what they were doing was OK. Or even partake.

 

[Integrity]

Where have I said the Bible is the equivalent of God?

OK, take the Bible completely out of existence. How do we know about God? You say God reveals himself to you. Apparently he's only revealed himself to you and maybe a few others because most people learned of him through study of the Scriptures. But no more. The Bible no longer exists. So will God now reveal himself to everyone?

I suspect you should read the Bible that you are dependent on more. I believe it is useful to instruct you in giving you the answers you need for the questions that you have.

 

[Integrity]

Might as well be a Scientologist.

I know nothing about Scientologist or Scientology.

 

[Pullman Brown]

Please explain.

Isn’t it more ignorant to make claims about another person‘s life that you know nothing about?

It is well documented historical reality. Your personally beliefs and life have nothing to do with it. Roman Catholics and Protestants represent two distinct and historical branches of Christianity! This sounds like quackery!

 

[Thebrownblob]

Please explain.

Isn’t it more ignorant to make claims about another person‘s life that you know nothing about?

That’s a little bit of a false equivalence.

We can make good solid judgments about the things that people are doing that they’ve told us about and if they are good or bad.

And Christians Are supposed to be iron sharpening iron, which would mean we would be able to tell each other when we’re going astray.

 

[Thebrownblob]

I know nothing about Scientologist or Scientology.

Exactly because you haven’t read any of their books.(I wouldn’t suggest any by the way.)

The only reason you know of Jesus and his salvation for us is because you read the book that matters.

 

[vantexan]

I suspect you should read the Bible that you are dependent on more. I believe it is useful to instruct you in giving you the answers you need for the questions that you have.

I suspect you have no answers to the questions I posed although.you have told us the Bible isn't necessary to know God and he has revealed all you need to know to you.

 

[Integrity]

Are you suggesting you’re living a perfect life?

Jesus was able to go and be around the worst people of his time, including prostitutes, tax collectors, and criminals.

But he was able to go and be around them and change their hearts. Not tell them what they were doing was OK. Or even partake.

I am only claiming that a living a life surrendered to Christ in Christ alone.

 

[Pullman Brown]

I suspect you should read the Bible that you are dependent on more. I believe it is useful to instruct you in giving you the answers you need for the questions that you have.

I suggest you go and read your own denomination’s statement of faith!

 

[Thebrownblob]

I am only claiming that a living a life surrendered to Christ in Christ alone.

I am only claiming we cannot really understand if we are living a life surrendered to Christ without understanding and believing the book that told us who he is and what he’s done.

Obviously, some of us had had disagreements about what it said, but we do earnestly believe it is the book that gives us the blueprint. You apparently do not.

 

[Integrity]

Exactly because you haven’t read any of their books.(I wouldn’t suggest any by the way.)

The only reason you know of Jesus and his salvation for us is because you read the book that matters.

I am not begrudging you, your opinion or your faith, if you will, that your relationship with Jesus is dependent on a religious book.

Why are you begrudging me, my opinion or my faith, if you will, that my relationship with Jesus is dependent on nothing but Jesus and His Holy Spirit and is not at all dependent on a religious book.

However useful that I may believe that religious book may be.

 

[Integrity]

I suggest you go and read your own denomination’s statement of faith!

I trust Jesus alone not a denomination’s statement of faith.

 

[Thebrownblob]

I am not begrudging you, your opinion or your faith, if you will, that your relationship with Jesus is dependent on a religious book.

Why are you begrudging me, my opinion or my faith, if you will, that my relationship with Jesus is dependent on nothing but Jesus and His Holy Spirit and is not at all dependent on a religious book.

However useful that I may believe that religious book may be.

Apologize if I’m coming off as begrudging. But my belief would be if I didn’t tell you you should rethink your belief. I would be judged.. You are, of course able to do whatever you choose with my opinion. Hopefully you take it into account and consider it.