What you just said is absolutely not right was this driver actually stealing time. The management team in the center I work at is trying to hold me to numbers they follow me can't find anything on me at all they check telematics and they scratch there head I work my a s s off to get it done with 2 10 min breaks and my hour lunch and I'm always over paid what would you think of what would you do they only thing they say is I have a inexcusable walk pace then I say look at the sweat coming down my face and do you have a scientific method you use to determine my walk pace when they shut up I tell them to go pound sand
Retired UPS Management willing to answer all questions that you are are afraid to ask.
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If you are working the same as the day someone rode with you then you have nothing to worry about. If management is trying to hold you to some number they made up you have nothing to worry about. If their following you and you are doing the job the same as when they rode with you there is nothing they can do about it. They most certainly can't fire you for walk pace. Assuming everything you're saying is true you have nothing to worry about.
I've been told by on car sup I'm one of a few drivers that really goes by the book not intentionally that's how I was trained and on top of that I was over paid with on car sup I do have 14 years of safe driving and not so good with injuries I have 11 injuries a few rolled ankles and 2 hernias few other minor stuff been with company for 21 years only been full time for 14
If the drivers are told to adjust for changing conditions how come my stop count doesn't change for changing conditions. How come my stop count is the same whether it is raining out, 70 degrees and sunny, and 8 inches of snow. I'm suppose to double following distances, walk like a penguin, and yada, yads, yada. My work never adjusts.
I always find it sad when I hear that someone is told their overpaid. I believed we all earned our pay. Except for your injuries, you sound like a great employee. The only reason I would be concerned about your injuries is the quality of life you'll have after you retire. The older I got the more I realized that working safely was most important. I have found that you can have safety and be productive. I wish you the best of luck with the rest of your career at UPS. I hope you'll will get a sup that isn't a jerk.
Like I said, each location is different and I can only tell you what I did. Having disgruntled employee's is not a way to be successful to me.
Catatonic
Nine Lives
I am sorry to hear this.
This thread has been extremely entertaining.
We appreciate and thank you for keeping the kiddies occupied for a few nights.
Jackburton
Gone Fish'n
Isn't it lights out at the old folks home right now?
It has truly been an enlightening experience for me!
Damn near. 40 minutes to sign off.
jumpman23
Oh Yeah
Hes like a vampire probably just woke up from his 3rd nap today, and probably go back to sleep bout 5am lmfao
Jackburton
Gone Fish'n
Wasn't directed at you, more for the walker wonder.
olroadbeech
Happy Verified UPSer
not afraid to ask this. have been asking for years but never have gotten an answer. why does corporate use negative methods to achieve profits?
using fear , threats, intimindation , taking away incentives, turkeys, safe driving gifts, termination letters always being watched and criticized , instead of using positive reinforcement and the golden rule??? there are scores of companies that achieve outstanding profits that do the opposite.
everyone loves a pat on the back and an occasional thank you. 25 years ago we had such a manager. our hub was number one in the nation. the drivers would go through fire for this guy. it was great and fun working here at that time. there was a real comraderie.(sp)
it just seems like a terrible waste. the profits would greatly increase if drivers were appreciated more. sure the pay and bennies are great but there is more to life than that. I would like to work another 5-7 years but just cant wait to retire because of the negative work environment. its such a shame.
so why do you think this is corporates idea of running a successful company when most of us believe this is the wrong approach?
using fear , threats, intimindation , taking away incentives, turkeys, safe driving gifts, termination letters always being watched and criticized , instead of using positive reinforcement and the golden rule??? there are scores of companies that achieve outstanding profits that do the opposite.
everyone loves a pat on the back and an occasional thank you. 25 years ago we had such a manager. our hub was number one in the nation. the drivers would go through fire for this guy. it was great and fun working here at that time. there was a real comraderie.(sp)
it just seems like a terrible waste. the profits would greatly increase if drivers were appreciated more. sure the pay and bennies are great but there is more to life than that. I would like to work another 5-7 years but just cant wait to retire because of the negative work environment. its such a shame.
so why do you think this is corporates idea of running a successful company when most of us believe this is the wrong approach?
Because some
can sit there and say "We fired these drivers and saved the company X amount of dollars!!"
ArcherUTR
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My job is to not have an accident. My job is to not injure myself or injure someone else. In that sense I am far from overpaid.
Making service on packages comes in at a distant second. No customer complaints even further down the line.
Tired Driver
Sisyphus had it easy.
UnconTROLLed
perfection
It's because we work for psychopaths who don't care about other people.
Fragile
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It's funny because I've wondered the same throughout the years...
I think that corporate does not have any type of policy to achieve their goals through negative methods. I think that develops through the execution of that plan and the results of micromanagement.
Look at it like this, the majority of middle management are generally glorified blue collar folk. Unless you work in the region you really have no say in how things go and are basically told what to do (YES-MAN). A lot of them came through the ranks from hourly and usually don't have any type of management experience or sensitivity training. The rest are off the street management who never worked in the hub or delivered a package in their lives and are completely out of touch. Either way it's a poisonous combination.
So when you get a DM or center manager who gets threatened with their jobs if they don't get results that's usually when they forget about their morals and values and the workforce experiences harassment and intimidation. I've seen some pretty pathetic things throughout my career that have really been comical. It's funny watching someone completely abandon their ethics and integrity for the sake of the corporation. Once you look at it like that... trust me you'll never feel harassed.
Every one of us has had a manager who was a really good person and tried to please everyone, but we all know that person either gets moved or they become bipolar and change their management method to achieve results. It never lasts long term.
FYI I'm not slamming management here, I'm just telling it like it is. There are plenty of union members that give this company hell and things are the way they are for a reason. I'm a realist.
That's the reason why this job is draining, it's not the physical labor aspect. It's like being in a bad relationship... you love the company, but they keep keying your car.
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