Cementups
Box Monkey
Yes, people from NYC refer to Albany as Upstate and have no clue where Plattsburgh is.
Pittsburgh is on the left side of PA.......but what does that have to do with this?!?!
Yes, people from NYC refer to Albany as Upstate and have no clue where Plattsburgh is.
ive said this on this forum several times....everyone defends the long hours as if its great. what is so great about $100k a year if you only had your weekends to enjoy it?
Yes, people from NYC refer to Albany as Upstate and have no clue where Plattsburgh is.
You get out early usually?My coworkers brag about how much money they make. I brag about being able to be there and coach my daughter's softball team and eat dinner with my family every night.*
*when I'm working, not just when I'm home disabled.
I realize the many differences among locals but some of this is so unbalanced it's ridiculous. We are are talking $30,000 a year difference - same job, same company but because of local union agreements, one guy gets a good life, the other a tough life.
I'm just put off by this because I've been supporting a family of 4 (only income) for the last 3 years barely making ends meet. Yet, if I was in this other area I wouldn't be wondering how I'm going to pay bills this week. I know life isn't fair but shouldn't it be a bit more fair within the same company?
If you're in package you can't make commitments during the week unless they start at 10:00pm. Management knows the guys that run all day to get to weekly commitments and pile it on them, knowing they'll run. It's their carrot that management uses to get production, for them to come in when they try calling out, and to get them to pick up the pace on days they need them to make up for cutting routes. Management utilizes leverage such as this, a persons desire to go out and be social, and financial instability to their benefit. When UPS has no leverage over you it's such a freeing experience, I don't want days off, I can sit out for months if you try and fire me, and I don't schedule things during the week, and if I do, I take the day off, with pay.My coworkers brag about how much money they make. I brag about being able to be there and coach my daughter's softball team and eat dinner with my family every night.*
*when I'm working, not just when I'm home disabled.
many nationwide companies pay varies depending on where you live because of cost of living. making $60k in the NYC area is middle class, you wont be able to own a home and support a family on that pay alone. but that same $60k in lets say the midwest or south (or a rural area) could let you live like a king. I used to install for safelite autoglass and we made $5 more per install (nyc area market) than installers in florida and also were able to do more installs in less time due to the dense population here. might be a 10 minute drive between jobs while in a rural area it could be an hour to each one.I realize the many differences among locals but some of this is so unbalanced it's ridiculous. We are are talking $30,000 a year difference - same job, same company but because of local union agreements, one guy gets a good life, the other a tough life.
I'm just put off by this because I've been supporting a family of 4 (only income) for the last 3 years barely making ends meet. Yet, if I was in this other area I wouldn't be wondering how I'm going to pay bills this week. I know life isn't fair but shouldn't it be a bit more fair within the same company?
many nationwide companies pay varies depending on where you live because of cost of living. making $60k in the NYC area is middle class, you wont be able to own a home and support a family on that pay alone. but that same $60k in lets say the midwest or south (or a rural area) could let you live like a king. I used to install for safelite autoglass and we made $5 more per install (nyc area market) than installers in florida and also were able to do more installs in less time due to the dense population here. might be a 10 minute drive between jobs while in a rural area it could be an hour to each one.
many nationwide companies pay varies depending on where you live because of cost of living. making $60k in the NYC area is middle class, you wont be able to own a home and support a family on that pay alone. but that same $60k in lets say the midwest or south (or a rural area) could let you live like a king. I used to install for safelite autoglass and we made $5 more per install (nyc area market) than installers in florida and also were able to do more installs in less time due to the dense population here. might be a 10 minute drive between jobs while in a rural area it could be an hour to each one.
If you're in package you can't make commitments during the week unless they start at 10:00pm. Management knows the guys that run all day to get to weekly commitments and pile it on them, knowing they'll run. It's their carrot that management uses to get production, for them to come in when they try calling out, and to get them to pick up the pace on days they need them to make up for cutting routes. Management utilizes leverage such as this, a persons desire to go out and be social, and financial instability to their benefit. When UPS has no leverage over you it's such a freeing experience, I don't want days off, I can sit out for months if you try and fire me, and I don't schedule things during the week, and if I do, I take the day off, with pay.
You get out early usually?
5:30-6:00 almost every day....aside from peak.
I was just telling my helper earlier how this would be the best job ever if I was getting out then. I'm jealous. I'm getting out earlier right now during peak than I was a month ago.5:30-6:00 almost every day....aside from peak.
Hmm... that sounds kind of unbelievable, did you fact check that? Or maybe thats for a part time air driver, i know their rate is much higher than full time drivers to start and i think they might have a shorter progression too. and they get to keep that rate if they switch to full time driverThe driver in question said in his local, you start at over $29 from day one. Never heard of this. That's like 85% higher than the starting rate across much of the country. It's not an issue of cost of living in this case.
Hmm... that sounds kind of unbelievable, did you fact check that? Or maybe thats for a part time air driver, i know their rate is much higher than full time drivers to start and i think they might have a shorter progression too. and they get to keep that rate if they switch to full time driver
TCD I believe. They could wait 10 years to go full time then another 4 for full top out. We only have full time cover drivers in my local.Hmm... that sounds kind of unbelievable, did you fact check that? Or maybe thats for a part time air driver, i know their rate is much higher than full time drivers to start and i think they might have a shorter progression too. and they get to keep that rate if they switch to full time driver
He was red circled at a higher rate for some reason.Just going by his posts. He says full time cover driver. Don't know much more.