Russia Claims Ukraine Standoff Is Over

Gotta Go

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The UK has had a reversal in politics too. Immigration is suddenly a hot topic. Unless you expect them to just breed their way to 51% in 20 years?
yes, 100%

also it being a "hot topic", have you watched their news? anyone who is anti-immigrant is being arrested and imprisoned for "hate speech", if anything they're doubling down
 

Thebrownblob

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Will the elections be secure and fair? Considering russia has invaded and are known themselves for their rigged elections?
Who knows? But do you think it’s fair that Zelinski has shut down the media if they say anything negative about him? do you think it’s fair that he’s canceled elections. What would you say if Trump did that? I also think it’s interesting we think we are the only fair and reasonable country in the world and that we have to monitor everyone’s elections.
 

vantexan

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yes, 100%

also it being a "hot topic", have you watched their news? anyone who is anti-immigrant is being arrested and imprisoned for "hate speech", if anything they're doubling down
Not anyone. Under their Communications Act of 2003 a little over 5000 people have been arrested for hate speech, inciting violence, etc. Not for openly expressing disagreement but trying to stir up violence towards particular groups. Pretty certain the things you've been.saying about Jews would get you busted there.
 

Thebrownblob

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Not anyone. Under their Communications Act of 2003 a little over 5000 people have been arrested for hate speech, inciting violence, etc. Not for openly expressing disagreement but trying to stir up violence towards particular groups. Pretty certain the things you've been.saying about Jews would get you busted there.
So you can’t get busted for saying something about Jewish people? Or is he talking about the Jewish government? Either way I’m no fan of this type of limiting of speech. The most important speech to be protected is speech that is considered “dangerous”. And who gets to decide what’s dangerous? I wonder if the Jewish people get busted for talking about their government? And how long it will be until Americans cannot talk about the American government? FYI, I have Jewish ancestry.
 

UnionStrong

Sorry, but I don’t care anymore.
So you can’t get busted for saying something about Jewish people? Or is he talking about the Jewish government? Either way I’m no fan of this type of limiting of speech. The most important speech to be protected is speech that is considered “dangerous”. And who gets to decide what’s dangerous? I wonder if the Jewish people get busted for talking about their government? And how long it will be until Americans cannot talk about the American government? FYI, I have Jewish ancestry.
:censored2: the Chiefs and fat people…
 

Thebrownblob

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Hate speech is my specialty
Apparently, JD Vance doesn’t think anyone can punch jewish person or its hate speech hate violence? What if you punched that Jewish person not because he’s a Jew because he’s a jerk? instead of getting charged with simple battery now you’re considered antisemitic? it’s automatically antisemitism? Apparently, I have some pretty good protection here.

“Asked about antisemitism in the US, Vance insisted that “America remains one of the great places to live if you are Jewish. The question now is how to reverse the negative trend of the last years.” His answer was “to aggressively stamp out and prosecute crimes,” adding: “Antisemitism is a particular kind of crime. You have to enforce the law. If you beat up a Jew and don’t face consequences, the attacks will continue and get worse.”
 

vantexan

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So you can’t get busted for saying something about Jewish people? Or is he talking about the Jewish government? Either way I’m no fan of this type of limiting of speech. The most important speech to be protected is speech that is considered “dangerous”. And who gets to decide what’s dangerous? I wonder if the Jewish people get busted for talking about their government? And how long it will be until Americans cannot talk about the American government? FYI, I have Jewish ancestry.
I'm talking about his posts that drip with hatred for Jews. In the U.K. that would likely get him arrested.

Let's try this. There's a Federal law against protesting outside the homes of the Supreme Court justices. Merrick Garland chose to not enforce that law. Resulted in a kook driving cross country with the intent of killing Justice Kavanaugh. Should there be such laws and should they be enforced?

Numerous conservatives have been "doxxed" by the far Left. That has resulted in people showing up and attempting to break into homes with the intent to either intimidate or commit violent acts. Should those who expose private information be held accountable?

The way they approach things in Europe is definitely different than here. But did the Muslims and others of color or different religions invade or did they legally immigrate under British law? I can understand the anger caused by some Muslims declaring Sharia law in some neighborhoods. Muslims have been arrested for online posts too. But what about the Pakistani family that moved there for more opportunity? Who wanted to get away from the religious fundamentalism of their home country? Does the British government have an obligation to protect them from harm?
 

Thebrownblob

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I'm talking about his posts that drip with hatred for Jews. In the U.K. that would likely get him arrested.

Let's try this. There's a Federal law against protesting outside the homes of the Supreme Court justices. Merrick Garland chose to not enforce that law. Resulted in a kook driving cross country with the intent of killing Justice Kavanaugh. Should there be such laws and should they be enforced?

Numerous conservatives have been "doxxed" by the far Left. That has resulted in people showing up and attempting to break into homes with the intent to either intimidate or commit violent acts. Should those who expose private information be held accountable?

The way they approach things in Europe is definitely different than here. But did the Muslims and others of color or different religions invade or did they legally immigrate under British law? I can understand the anger caused by some Muslims declaring Sharia law in some neighborhoods. Muslims have been arrested for online posts too. But what about the Pakistani family that moved there for more opportunity? Who wanted to get away from the religious fundamentalism of their home country? Does the British government have an obligation to protect them from harm?
I do not want the government to protect me from “words” only actions. I’m sure there’s plenty of laws on the books now against the illegal actions and they don’t have to be called hate speech or hate actions. Because I understand, they will change the meaning of speech whenever it suits them as you can see clearly what’s happening in the UK.

"Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety."


Or sticks and stones can break my bones but names will never hurt me.😉

I think Jewish jokes are kind of funny! Arrest me!
 

vantexan

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I do not want the government to protect me from “words” only actions. I’m sure there’s plenty of laws on the books now against the illegal actions and they don’t have called hate speech or hate actions. Because I understand, they will change the meaning of speech whenever it suits them as you can see clearly what’s happening in the UK.

"Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety."


Or sticks and stones can break my bones but names will never hurt me.😉

I think Jewish jokes are kind of funny! Arrest me!
Remember 9/11? There was a Sikh working at a convenience store in Arizona that was shot to death because some idiot thought because he wore a turban he was part of the group responsible for 9/11. I'm not worried about you. I'm worried about the people who are easily influenced to commit acts of violence by what they see online and hear on tv.

Jokes are fine. But catstalking hates Jews and constantly attacks them. There's a difference.

By the way the Ukrainians knew what was at stake if they gave up their essential liberty and have fought tooth and nail to preserve their freedom. Some are awfully cavalier about the freedom of others.
 

Thebrownblob

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Remember 9/11? There was a Sikh working at a convenience store in Arizona that was shot to death because some idiot thought because he wore a turban he was part of the group responsible for 9/11. I'm not worried about you. I'm worried about the people who are easily influenced to commit acts of violence by what they see online and hear on tv.

Jokes are fine. But catstalking hates Jews and constantly attacks them. There's a difference.

By the way the Ukrainians knew what was at stake if they gave up their essential liberty and have fought tooth and nail to preserve their freedom. Some are awfully cavalier about the freedom of others.
Did they not arrest the man for shooting him? Who cares if he hated Muslims and confused Sikh he was a murderer.

I’ve never heard @catstalking talk about murdering people. His choice to dislike Jews, or the Jewish government is his right. Even if he’s wrong.

Some people might say the way you talk about transgendered is hate speech. And that’s ridiculous. You have a right to your opinion. Without it being illegal.
 

Thebrownblob

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Remember 9/11? There was a Sikh working at a convenience store in Arizona that was shot to death because some idiot thought because he wore a turban he was part of the group responsible for 9/11. I'm not worried about you. I'm worried about the people who are easily influenced to commit acts of violence by what they see online and hear on tv.

Jokes are fine. But catstalking hates Jews and constantly attacks them. There's a difference.

By the way the Ukrainians knew what was at stake if they gave up their essential liberty and have fought tooth and nail to preserve their freedom. Some are awfully cavalier about the freedom of others.
Anyone is free to ignore @catstalking if they are offended by his speech. It’s easy.
 
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