Russia Claims Ukraine Standoff Is Over

DriveInDriѵeOut

Inordinately Right
By the way the Ukrainians knew what was at stake if they gave up their essential liberty and have fought tooth and nail to preserve their freedom. Some are awfully cavalier about the freedom of others.
Polling showed the majority of Ukrainians wanted a negotiated peace. Their dictator decided he didn't care about their freedom to choose peace.

Neither did neocons like you
 

vantexan

Well-Known Member
Did they not arrest the man for shooting him? Who cares if he hated Muslims and confused Sikh he was a murderer.

I’ve never heard @catstalking talk about murdering people. His choice to dislike Jews, or the Jewish government is his right. Even if he’s wrong.

Some people might say the way you talk about transgendered is hate speech. And that’s ridiculous. You have a right to your opinion. Without it being illegal.
You're not getting it. Some are incited to violence by others speech. You absolutely have the right to voice opinions. But when you say this group does this or that without any proof they are doing this or that you may be inciting others to harm that group without cause. I can say biological males shouldn't be in girls locker rooms. That's my opinion. If I say all drag queens are paedophiles, I'm making a statement that others might act on and harm someone. If I say that and someone is harmed because of my statement I should be held accountable.
 

vantexan

Well-Known Member
What a strange question the way he asked it after having lived through the last four years of our own government, allowing some of these people to legally cross or at the very least ignoring and in many cases paying their way.
What happened in our country the last four years was an invasion, an ignoring of the Constitution by our own government which aided and abetted the invasion.

However the U.K. is part of the British Commonwealth and under their laws people can and do immigrate from member countries there. And as some elements of British society are prone to thuggery the British government has an obligation to set laws that try to tamp down violence against immigrants.
 

Thebrownblob

Well-Known Member
Me:
Ukraine should have taken the peace deal.
Vantexan:
You're a Putin stooge.

Trump:
Ukraine should have taken the peace deal.
Vantexan:
...Crickets...
I believe the problem is two fold…

1. The Biden administration and the Democrats in general had been wanting a conflict in Ukraine with Russia for a very long time to pay their friends in the defense sector and to cover up a lot of their own questionable deals in my opinion., a lot of money, just disappeared. Was Zelinski a stooge or just in on the grift?

2. Therefore the previous. administration was never going to allow any peace ever so now Ukraine is stuck with losing territory that they’ve never would have lost Had Trump been president to begin with and there was no war.
 

vantexan

Well-Known Member
Me:
Ukraine should have taken the peace deal.
Vantexan:
You're a Putin stooge.

Trump:
Ukraine should have taken the peace deal.
Vantexan:
...Crickets...
You do realize that Ukraine did nothing to deserve being invaded, right? That Putin invaded with every intention of conquering the country? That there wasn't a peace deal? If you're going to say Trump said this or that well with all due respect Trump tends towards hyperbole. Heard him say yesterday that millions have been killed in Ukraine. That we've given Ukraine $350 billion and Europe has given them $100 billion. There's no excuse for what Russia has done and the only reason they're talking peace now is if they go much longer the sanctions and the casualties will destroy their country.

You've yet to produce any polls.
 

DriveInDriѵeOut

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