Russia Claims Ukraine Standoff Is Over

Box Ox

Well-Known Member
when did biden admin ever have a phone call with putin?

Biden couldn’t find his ass with both hands and a flashlight.

it's the Ukrainians from the get go who chose to defend their country. Who sent their wives and children out of the country and required every able bodied male between 16 and 64 to fight.

Minimum draft age is 25. Average age of a Ukrainian military member last year was 43. Males age 18 to 60 not supposed to leave the country.
 

rickyb

Well-Known Member
The last US administration didn’t have the leadership ability to facilitate it.
they were too corrupt

and yet almighty rickyb sources of info said the way this will end is through diplomacy not weapons

do you remember which position you were defending?
 

vantexan

Well-Known Member
Well, y’all don’t think it was worth sacrificing Ukrainian people. I guess you do and that’s your prerogative. I’m surprised you voted for Trump if you really feel that way, Kamala Harris would’ve made sure we fought to the last Ukrainian….. literally.
I'm 100% for Trump ending this war as soon as possible. And if he had remained in office in 2020 I'm certain he would have prevented it from happening to begin with. And I'm 100% certain Biden's weakness made this war possible and there'd be no end in sight if Harris had won. Trump's ability to manage things has already been made clear by his getting a number of hostages released in a very short time. The latest guy was left to remain in a Russian jail by Biden in favor of a black lesbian basketball player that he probably thought would score him political points. That in spite of the white guy having been in jail for years compared to her months. So go ahead and smear me all you want, I can take it.
 

vantexan

Well-Known Member
Yes.

It would have if the Western nations hadn't tanked the deal. Why not just admit you are wrong instead of doing this embarrassing dance you're doing?
The Ukrainians didn't have the leverage they have now. NATO had already made clear they weren't going to fight Russia and literally everyone expected Russia to quickly annihilate Ukraine. The Ukrainians were fighting to keep their territorial integrity long before Russia fully invaded. They weren't going to concede anything and Russia wasn't going to just settle for the Donbas. Three years of brutal fighting later and both sides are willing to negotiate it appears. That wasn't going to happen three years ago like you claim.
 

Thebrownblob

Well-Known Member
I'm 100% for Trump ending this war as soon as possible. And if he had remained in office in 2020 I'm certain he would have prevented it from happening to begin with. And I'm 100% certain Biden's weakness made this war possible and there'd be no end in sight if Harris had won. Trump's ability to manage things has already been made clear by his getting a number of hostages released in a very short time. The latest guy was left to remain in a Russian jail by Biden in favor of a black lesbian basketball player that he probably thought would score him political points. That in spite of the white guy having been in jail for years compared to her months. So go ahead and smear me all you want, I can take it.
Not trying to smear you at all. If you agree that the war could’ve been avoided. I don’t know why you think it was a good idea and worth it at this point. Just an honest observation on my part. I think you might’ve had a Blindspot on this particular item.
 

vantexan

Well-Known Member
Not trying to smear you at all. If you agree that the war could’ve been avoided. I don’t know why you think it was a good idea and worth it at this point. Just an honest observation on my part. I think you might’ve had a Blindspot on this particular item.
When did I say it was a good idea? War is always the worst way to go but if you're invaded you either fight or surrender. No one ever brings up the tens of millions of Ukrainians starved to death by Stalin or the many decades they were under Soviet oppression. These are highly motivated people to remain independent of the Russians. And yeah, saying you're surprised I voted for Trump after everything I've posted against Biden and Harris just because I don't agree with you on Ukraine is pretty much smearing me.
 

Thebrownblob

Well-Known Member
When did I say it was a good idea? War is always the worst way to go but if you're invaded you either fight or surrender. No one ever brings up the tens of millions of Ukrainians starved to death by Stalin or the many decades they were under Soviet oppression. These are highly motivated people to remain independent of the Russians. And yeah, saying you're surprised I voted for Trump after everything I've posted against Biden and Harris just because I don't agree with you on Ukraine is pretty much smearing me.
Come on now you called me a Putin stooge that’s a pretty big smear. I’ve never said anything other then I question you saying the Biden administration was doing the right thing when you know that is not true. Even if there was no choice, Biden administration never cared if Ukraine won. I’m not gonna support that ever.

If I’m a Putin stooge then so is Trump so why would you vote for him? Seems like a logical question to me.
 

vantexan

Well-Known Member
Come on now you called me a Putin stooge that’s a pretty big smear. I’ve never said anything other then I question you saying the Biden administration was doing the right thing when you know that is not true. Even if there was no choice, Biden administration never cared if Ukraine won. I’m not gonna support that ever.

If I’m a Putin stooge then so is Trump so why would you vote for him? Seems like a logical question to me.
Did I call you that? My apologies. I should have been specific about DIDO. I think anything that the Biden administration did was a calculation to either please the far Left or our defense industry. If they cared about the Ukrainians they wouldn't have slow walked the weaponry promised. And I say they.because I don't think Biden was running the show.
 

Thebrownblob

Well-Known Member
Did I call you that? My apologies. I should have been specific about DIDO. I think anything that the Biden administration did was a calculation to either please the far Left or our defense industry. If they cared about the Ukrainians they wouldn't have slow walked the weaponry promised. And I say they.because I don't think Biden was running the show.
I agree with you on that and that is why I say the Biden administration I’m not certain he had much to do with any of it at that point. Although I do think they use it to their advantage to hide money being spent and already spent. Apology accepted. I just think we see things a little differently on this and it is what it is.
 

DriveInDriѵeOut

Inordinately Right
Come on now you called me a Putin stooge that’s a pretty big smear.
Did I call you that? My apologies. I should have been specific about DIDO.
Very dumb to insult me as a Putin stooge considering I have the same position as you.

Are you even smart enough to realize you're calling yourself a Putin stooge?

REEEEEEE
Putin puppet
REEEEEEE
You're basically the new sportello lol.
 

Ou812fu

Polishing toilet bowls since 1966.
so i said at some point ukraine would lose some land and not join nato and here we are and we needed diplomacy to end the war not more weapons

when did biden admin ever have a phone call with putin?
Didn't know the Biden in the fake white house was the actual Biden. Why i. 4 year of a Biden presidency did we never have video's like this?
Everyone needs to use their brain.

 

Thebrownblob

Well-Known Member
Very dumb to insult me as a Putin stooge considering I have the same position as you.

Are you even smart enough to realize you're calling yourself a Putin stooge?

REEEEEEE
Putin puppet
REEEEEEE
You're basically the new sportello lol.
Where is old sporty? he’s probably unable to post but reading these forms and screaming at the sky.
 
Top