Saturday Ground Update

[brownmonster]

yah they cared so much they stopped doing business with us and we went from an 80% market share to 50% and falling

but hey those are just numbers that don't mean anything, right?

You forgot to mention the market is twice as big and we would have more if not for stupid management decisions along the way. When are these "millions " in savings going to show up on the balance sheet?

 

[tourists24]

yah they cared so much they stopped doing business with us and we went from an 80% market share to 50% and falling

but hey those are just numbers that don't mean anything, right?

all could've been avoided if it weren't for Last Best and Final offer.
The public saw how smug UPS was.

Yeah..... poor UPS.... put em in the poor house.

 

[TearsInRain]

You forgot to mention the market is twice as big and we would have more if not for stupid management decisions along the way. When are these "millions " in savings going to show up on the balance sheet?

yah dude that's the point, businesses aren't choosing us because we charge high prices and deliver bad service on the driver end, why would new businesses sign onto our stuff when they look at us and see the threat of strikes

all could've been avoided if it weren't for Last Best and Final offer.
The public saw how smug UPS was.

Yeah..... poor UPS.... put em in the poor house.

other than UPSers, nobody i know even knows we had a strike 20 years ago, so nobody is remembering how UPS acted then except the people that don't matter (you)

 

[Catatonic]

all could've been avoided if it weren't for Last Best and Final offer.
The public saw how smug UPS was.

Yeah..... poor UPS.... put em in the poor house.

 

[upschuck]

yah dude that's the point, businesses aren't choosing us because we charge high prices and deliver bad service on the driver end, why would new businesses sign onto our stuff when they look at us and see the threat of strikes



other than UPSers, nobody i know even knows we had a strike 20 years ago, so nobody is remembering how UPS acted then except the people that don't matter (you)

Nice way to play both sides of the coin.

You are your signature "exceptionally clueless".

 

[tourists24]

other than UPSers, nobody i know even knows we had a strike 20 years ago, so nobody is remembering how UPS acted then except the people that don't matter (you)

doesn't matter if they remember it or not. The same smug attitude will yield the same results. If anyone doesn't matter it's you. I have a route and I do my part with the public. And you'll be spouting numbers

 

[Johney]

We are overpaid for what we do.

Yawn.

 

[thisjobaintforeverybody]

Even if we voted no on the company's last best offer(national) what's stopping the union and company from passing it like they did with some of the local supplements in the last contract?

 

[UpstateNYUPSer(Ret)]

Even if we voted no on the company's last best offer(national) what's stopping the union and company from passing it like they did with some of the local supplements in the last contract?

Imposing a supplement or two is one thing.

Imposing a NMA between a Fortune 500 employer and the largest labor union is quite another.

 

[JackStraw]

There won't be a strike for at least six years. Hoffa hasn't got the boulders.

 

[Brownslave688]

There won't be a strike for at least six years. Hoffa hasn't got the boulders.

Yep. No way we ever strike under höffa.

 

[Turdferguson]

Yep. No way we ever strike under höffa.

Hoffa*

 

[Anthonysg0113]

Worked at a supermarket while in high school for minimum wage.

Worked at a Christmas bulb factory during the summers while in college for minimum wage.

2 years in college.

8 years on active duty in the Air Force.

Just started my 28th year at UPS.

We are overpaid for what we do.

I know I earn every penny I make! When I'm delivering 70+ pkgs to a detergent company and here comes the FedEx ground guy bringing in three!! Hell yes I earn my money!!

 

[ManInBrown]

If anything we are underpaid. The public thinks it's an easy job. That's a joke. They don't know what we deal with. I earn every penny.

 

[Anthonysg0113]

Yep. No way we ever strike under höffa.

Yep you're right he's in UPS's back pocket. I mean why would we concede on that last contract. What sucks is that Saturday ground isn't in the contract yet. They can do what ever they want right now.

 

[Brownslave688]

Yep you're right he's in UPS's back pocket. I mean why would we concede on that last contract. What sucks is that Saturday ground isn't in the contract yet. They can do what ever they want right now.

Uhhh it's in the contract. Been there for 20-30 years in most places.

 

[StoptheAct1212]

My main question, and sorry. It may have ben answered already.....

We sacrifice our weekly social and family life, getting home, 730, 8 or even 9 every night. And for some people later....
Now being stuck working saturdays, kills more family time. I dont care how much money we make, when is it enogh. And is anyone in the same boat, with no family time

 

[UpstateNYUPSer(Ret)]

I guess you have a choice to make.

 

[TearsInRain]

My main question, and sorry. It may have ben answered already.....

We sacrifice our weekly social and family life, getting home, 730, 8 or even 9 every night. And for some people later....
Now being stuck working saturdays, kills more family time. I dont care how much money we make, when is it enogh. And is anyone in the same boat, with no family time

what do you expect when your contract incentivizes working long hours

 

[brownmonster]

what do you expect when your contract incentivizes working long hours

Nice try.