Seniority Part Timers Employees Got Screwed Again on Tentative contract!!!

[The Range]

All PT who should be making the contractual minimum of $16.65 and are currently paid more than $21/hr as a result of MRA are subject to have their hourly rate reduced to no less than $21 if this TA gets ratified.

There appears to be no change on language covering the MRA in the TA. So MRA will continue to be given at UPS' will, to whom they wish (not everyone gets the equal bump in pay, although living/working in the same market), and then taken away on a whim. This happens atleast once a year in my hub and people get upset, complain, quit.. the works. Business as usual as a PT worker at UPS for the next 5 years. MRA is a polarizing topic in many buildings including mine. It also doesn't help to retain potential long term employees who won't make it to 9 months or more to get insurance (big selling point for PT). Once they see they are no longer making what they started at MRA, I don't see how that helps to continue staffing operations.

For anyone who is thinking about voting yes and is PT including those from 0-5 YOS, 5-10 YOS & more recently from my experience even 10-15 Years of Service (only a matter of time until the 15-20+ seniority crowd feels it) consider you will most likely find yourself being paid per hour the same or less than the MRA at some point.

So if you have between 10-15 YOS and an MRA that the company chooses not to give you but to others would set everybody working your same location and shift with less seniority or none (yes even seniority employees who have insurance also get them not just new hires) at your rate or higher.

However IF the company was feeling real good about themselves and likes you alot, maybe they will MRA you and all your fellow employees to what the next senior (15-20yr) employee is making. Then it becomes their curse. Sorry for the long post. Hope all of that makes some sense.

Yup, vote no. O'Brien used us for public support and then stabbed us in the back. When UPS takes away the MRA to eat up the raises the majority of pters in my building will be eating a pay cut. It's incredible to witness after all the talk of making tenured part-timers whole.

 

[heynicetits]

Yup, vote no. O'Brien used us for public support and then stabbed us in the back. When UPS takes away the MRA to eat up the raises the majority of pters in my building will be eating a pay cut. It's incredible to witness after all the talk of making tenured part-timers whole.

I'm waiting for the thread titled concession stand where everyone FT/PT gathers what they don't like about the concession free TA. Just goes to show you can't top your peak. How can you do better than the best contract ever?

 

[Arizax2]

Absolutely, that’s what these last few weeks were about, SOB even eluded to it. And also he needed the past 3 weeks to ensure the members fought and now feel like they “won” something with this new contract to ensure it will pass.

I’ll take it a step further and ask was UPS in on it, after all a unionized Amazon and FedEx would make UPS smile?

I agree. It's SOB time to turn it up on FedEX and Amazon. UPS would be happy with it. Let's even up the playing field.

 

[GameCockFan]

You’re right, I should be and am grateful for that, and the talks of strikes definitely woke me up to how blessed I feel to have the benefits I do in this part time position. Thank you for reminding me though, genuinely

I am just bitter. I understand being made fun of for that, like I’ve said though, it just sucks working from $8.50 to $10 and then they raised starting wage to $10, work from $10 to $15 then raised starting wage to $15, now same things happens at $21. I feel like I joined at the worst time financially when my wage was the lowest and I never received any true yearly raises

At the end of this 5 year contract after all these “historic” raises, I will be making less then what the starting wage is now with MRA. That’s why it sucks man.

SOB was saying it’s time to take care of the long term part timers, I finally felt appreciated lol, and I end up getting $1 and less after 5 years than what ups is paying through MRA

Part of the problem is the 25 years that UPS never increased PT starting pay. I started on the preload at $9/hr in 1988. Got the extra dollar for it being a skilled position. Guy in my building started 2013 on the local sort at $8.50/hr. Thats insane. The other problem started earlier in '82 when part-time and full-time pay stopped being the same.

 

[PT 4 Life]

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[Brown Down]

No additional language addressing MRA. That presser was intentionally deceptive. How many thousands of pters are going to see zero raise out of this contract? A lot will be eating a pay cut when UPS pulls the MRA rug out. O'Brien is all about making it right for the unsung heroes!

You do realize the mra has nothing at all to do with the union or the contract for that matter. Hell it's not even considered an extra contractual agreement. Thats 100 percent the company. So don't blame the union for something it really doesn't have a hand in.

 

[HarryWarden]

You do realize the mra has nothing at all to do with the union or the contract for that matter. Hell it's not even considered an extra contractual agreement. Thats 100 percent the company. So don't blame the union for something it really doesn't have a hand in.

i get it though. It’s a bummer when the company is willingly paying you more through an MRA than what I’ll get at the end of the 5 year contract

 

[BobJ]

i get it though. It’s a bummer when the company is willingly paying you more through an MRA than what I’ll get at the end of the 5 year contract

How about the rest of the country that never got an MRA?

It's unfair that some people got their raises early.

 

[Jason Knox]

You get 2.75 up front plus your 1.50

That still only takes us to $21 an hour same as the new employees coming in.

 

[Jkloc420]

That still only takes us to $21 an hour same as the new employees coming in.

If u are at 5 years you get 2.75 plus 50 cents

 

[Jkloc420]

I will say I don't understand the dividing the 1.50 up at all

 

[Jkloc420]

The 2.75 raise is a good raise, the complaint should be on the 1.50, that's a legit complaint

 

[Jason Knox]

If u are at 5 years you get 2.75 plus 50 cents

Am at 4 1/2 years. Started at $10.30 an hr and now at $16.65. With the new contract I will get $2.75 and $1.60 to put me at $21 an hour which is still way to low if new employees are coming in at $21 an hour. And then the progression is $.75,$.75,$1.00 and then $2.25 in the last year. The way they made it sound was we jump to $21 and then add the $2.75 to that and $7.50 was over the 5 years. That’s not it at all

 

[Jkloc420]

Am at 4 1/2 years. Started at $10.30 an hr and now at $16.65. With the new contract I will get $2.75 and $1.60 to put me at $21 an hour which is still way to low if new employees are coming in at $21 an hour. And then the progression is $.75,$.75,$1.00 and then $2.25 in the last year. The way they made it sound was we jump to $21 and then add the $2.75 to that and $7.50 was over the 5 years. That’s not it at all

No because your under the 5 years

 

[Jkloc420]

Am at 4 1/2 years. Started at $10.30 an hr and now at $16.65. With the new contract I will get $2.75 and $1.60 to put me at $21 an hour which is still way to low if new employees are coming in at $21 an hour. And then the progression is $.75,$.75,$1.00 and then $2.25 in the last year. The way they made it sound was we jump to $21 and then add the $2.75 to that and $7.50 was over the 5 years. That’s not it at all

I started out at 8.50, I think it took me 10 years to get 21

 

[Just A UPS Guy]

Am at 4 1/2 years. Started at $10.30 an hr and now at $16.65. With the new contract I will get $2.75 and $1.60 to put me at $21 an hour which is still way to low if new employees are coming in at $21 an hour. And then the progression is $.75,$.75,$1.00 and then $2.25 in the last year. The way they made it sound was we jump to $21 and then add the $2.75 to that and $7.50 was over the 5 years. That’s not it at all

How long until you get a shot at driving?

 

[HarryWarden]

The 2.75 raise is a good raise, the complaint should be on the 1.50, that's a legit complaint

The way they worded it sounded like it was going to be longevity raise on top of every raise in the contract

“Longevity raise On top of new hourly raises compounding their earnings”

I’m not sure how they justify a one time raise as “ compounding their earnings”

Then the wording made it sound like a bump to $21 plus $2.75 and also another $7.50 over the contract

The whole thing was just hyped up too much and then poorly worded and people got let down by a fair contract

 

[HarryWarden]

I started out at 8.50, I think it took me 10 years to get 21

I’m around ten years also, I wonder if I’m at 21, I’ve been trying to find out my base pay, I’ve had this high MRA for so long I don’t even know what I make

 

[Just A UPS Guy]

I’m not sure how they justify a one time raise as “ compounding their earnings”

Because instead of $7.50, that raise added to the base raises.

Compound - (verb) to make up a composite whole.

 

[Brown Circus]

They could have just given EVERYBODY $5 catch up raises across the board and cut through all of the confusion.