Should part time employees make the same rate as full time employees?

MyTripisCut

Never bought my own handtruck
Being able to support yourself is not part of the equation, it’s more about paying PT and 22.3 inside the same rate for the same work. Do I think I should be able to support myself on $35 an hour with only 17.5 hours? No. But I want to make the same rate as the guy next to me doing the same work
If they eliminated PT jobs, would you work FT in the building?
 

HarryWarden

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But PTers don’t make higher wages dummy. Lmfaooooo. You are retarded.
Lot of projection in this comment.

So you think Sean is fighting for higher part time wages to hurt the union? You think Hoffa had the right idea and O’Brien is trying to hurt the union by raising wages?
Please explain your math for me one more time. You think higher turnover of initiation fees does more compared to long term higher wage union dues MONTHLY? And I’m the stupid one? LOL
Hang on there cowboy. I’ll use the fast food worker argument. If McDonalds charged $3 for a Big Mac and paid their workers $10 an hour, but the workers demanded $18 an hour and MacDonalds has to give in or they will have no workers…..do you think the CEO is going to be like, “you’re right, I don’t need to make so much money, I was wrong” or are they gonna charge $6 for a Big Mac? News flash, they charge even more…..

So please explain to me how in 1980 the starting wage for a loader at ups was $8.50 an hour, equivalent to $25 an hour after inflation today, and 30 years later it was the exact same wage? How could they afford to do it back then but can’t now?

Awfully strange how workers wage have nearly stagnated, while corporate shareholder pay has sky rocketed. Highest paid employee used to get 10x more than the lowest paid in the 1950s, now it’s 500x.
 

MyTripisCut

Never bought my own handtruck
So please explain to me how in 1980 the starting wage for a loader at ups was $8.50 an hour, equivalent to $25 an hour after inflation today, and 30 years later it was the exact same wage? How could they afford to do it back then but can’t now?

What did the CEO of UPS make back then? Hmmmmmmm. Prolly not as much as Carol. That’s how they “afforded it”. You are a drooling imbecile.
 
Hang on there cowboy. I’ll use the fast food worker argument. If McDonalds charged $3 for a Big Mac and paid their workers $10 an hour, but the workers demanded $18 an hour and MacDonalds has to give in or they will have no workers…..do you think the CEO is going to be like, “you’re right, I don’t need to make so much money, I was wrong” or are they gonna charge $6 for a Big Mac? News flash, they charge even more…..
It's more complicated than that. You're not quite correct. Sure the CEO would want to compensate to ensure the same or higher executive pay, but they literally cannot as long as competition exists in the free market.

UPS for instance can't raise rates, because they would lose competitive contracts with businesses like Target and Macy's which are crucial to the company.

It looks like Carol and our share holder friends are going to be taking massive paycuts :D
 

clarnzz

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And I worked 12 years part time and had a wife and 2 kids while still part time, and still no. More full time jobs absolutely, feeling sorry for people who choose to work 4 hours a day and think that’s a career. Absolutely not.
 

HarryWarden

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And I worked 12 years part time and had a wife and 2 kids while still part time, and still no. More full time jobs absolutely, feeling sorry for people who choose to work 4 hours a day and think that’s a career. Absolutely not.
Why would the company create full time jobs when they can hire multiple part time workers for less cost?
 

clarnzz

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Why would we demand for new hires to get higher wages when they still have a choice of making UPS their career or not?
 

clarnzz

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That’s a company issue though, if they felt like they needed to pay people more to get more quality people to choose to work at UPS they would do it on their own and no need to negotiate it.
 

HarryWarden

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That’s a company issue though, if they felt like they needed to pay people more to get more quality people to choose to work at UPS they would do it on their own and no need to negotiate it.
It’s a company issue? Ups has a union, that’s a union issue
 

clarnzz

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Attracting quality people to work at UPS is a company issue, Taking care of the people who have decided to make this company a part of their life and livelihood is a union issue.
 

clarnzz

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Yea and part of taking care of people is paying them a good wage
It’s so hard for me to feel sorry for any of my co workers. I started at $8 an hour and the medical benefits alone were even worth it back then. I don’t think we are even arguing, yes yes and yes, the people who go out there and do the actual work deserve their fair share of the profits, but $25 an hour with full benefits as a part time worker seems excessive to me, but maybe I’m just jealous.
 

HarryWarden

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It’s so hard for me to feel sorry for any of my co workers. I started at $8 an hour and the medical benefits alone were even worth it back then. I don’t think we are even arguing, yes yes and yes, the people who go out there and do the actual work deserve their fair share of the profits, but $25 an hour with full benefits as a part time worker seems excessive to me, but maybe I’m just jealous.
I think it is a jealousy thing, although that’s maybe not the perfect word for it, but it’s more from because you also work so hard and although well paid, to be honest are also probably STILL underpaid for your hard work

Just look at the massive amount of profits this company makes, from OUR labor, and you’ll realize even the highest paid employees at this company are still underpaid

In one year alone UPS paid $4 billion dollars In stock buybacks, to line their pockets of $20 million a year

$4 billion in that stock buyback could have given every single ups employee $10,000
 
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