socialism / capitalism
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wkmac
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When "State" socialism and "State" capitalism can be the same thing and benefit one another.
How Bernie Sander’s Economic Policies would Empower Mega-Corporations – Stifle Small Business
How Bernie Sander’s Economic Policies would Empower Mega-Corporations – Stifle Small Business
yes because you dont have hunger problems, or medicine problems in capitalist america LOL
newfie
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only when we have too many Canadians coming across the border sucking up our supply
Babagounj
Strength through joy
The only time I have seen a line that huge was for a music concert .
Have never seen a line for basic consumer goods .
We are given choices on where to acquire our goods , unlike a socialist country where the gov't tell you where to get in a line and maybe you'll get something .
no you have the exact opposite problem: you have no lines because it costs too much.
so 1 in 7 americans struggle to feed themselves.
your prescription drug prices are 2x as much as canada and western EU. and 1 in 5 senior cant afford their drugs.
teamer
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how would you know the prices in Europe?
that was from thinkprogress
BrownArmy
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Look it up.
The USA runs a FOR PROFIT system which allows drug companies to overcharge for drugs, whereas, EU countries and even CUBA can sell the same drug for pennies on the dollar compared to the USA.
OPEN YOUR EYES BRO.
TOS.
Babagounj
Strength through joy
Your numbers are misleading .
Your 1 in 7 info probably comes from relief aid agencies , who see the local free food pantries running out of supplies .
Why does this happen ?
Well here's how it works ; first of the month every EBT card gets refilled , the card holders use up the credit of these cards to buy food staples to ship back their home countries . When the cards are empty , then they visit the food pantries to fill their own bellies .
The underground economy of the foreign workers sends $54B overseas annually , of which I recall only OK. taxes .
If the federal gov't also taxed this flow at say 20% , then our economy would get a much needed influx .
DriveInDriveOut
Inordinately Right
Makes things really simple to just blame it all on immigrants I guess.
newfie
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Bernie can take the blame for that one he spent 30 years in congress and did nothing
yes lets single handedly blame one guy lol
i was listening to the corporate media, and they were talking about trump and people who like authoritarians, and one of the things was "simple answers to our problems" or something.
newfie
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here's the point this is Bernie's baby. this is what he supposedly is fighting to fix for us. yet in his 30 years he has never ever initiated and passed one bill. what changes if he got elected president?
well for example obama could have pushed single payer healthcare but he sold out. he probably could have stopped teh TPP but hes a corporate sell out.
im not an expert you would have to look it up. but certainly the president has some power. maybe he would encourage citizens to put pressure on government via protests and whatever.
btw did trump pass any bills LOL?
newfie
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You don't seem to understand power or influence in our system. no single individual has the power to pass anything. you have to work it by building a coalition.
Obama did not enjoy that part of the job and avoided it and was therefore extremely ineffective overall. The things he did pass were passed when he had a democratic super majority
Bernie spent 30 years in congress and in the end was so extreme that he could never build a coalition to pass one bill in all that time. That is actually a good indication of what he will do as president.
while your Trump comment was probably meant to be a joke , the Donald has had to do similar things in private industry and considering the billions he has made doing so would seem to be an indication that he has been successful at it.
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