Telematics and discipline.

[Whatbrownwontdoforyou]

And if he still disciplines you file an article 6 in the master grievence


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[Brownslave688]

I guess so. Maybe 3 a day with 200 stops. Never had more than that. Just thinking that it's kinda bs for 1 at .01 miles. I was told that's the shortest they can even measure it. I'm thinking more like 5 feet not 50 feet

Last time
I had one they said you had a seatbelt exception. I said how far? .01 miles.

I said so you're saying I didn't have one. Went back and forth until they walked off.

 

[BrownTexas]

I'd deny it and protest the warning letter. It will be dropped. Unless you told them you did it or they saw you they can't prove it.

 

[wayfair]

I have been told that they turn it off once you are back on property.

It turns "off" when you "return to building"


I kept getting hit with "driving with bulkhead door open"... When I pull up to the airdock to unload air, I wouldn't shut the door when pulling back into dock space

 

[Indecisi0n]

As a shop steward I would have told you to apologize and you will do better. You have to own things you do here. Now when you think it's getting warm it's probably the bright light shining on you.

So you never would have mentioned that we aren't allowed to be disciplined based solely off technology!? *shrug

 

[30 to life]

This is complete and total BS!!

Telematics only works when the PC is
linked to a DIAD.

Car washers do not generate Telematics' violations.

You are wrong Dave guys who take their lunch or break at the building at the end of day they are still punched in and the trucks are being moved. Once again you have no clue.

 

[Browned up]

No one saw me and they can't prove jack . Just at the point after 20 yrs I'm really starting to see what a screwed up place this really is. On car gave me the letter and said it's just part work they are making him do. Just tired of the crap.

 

[UpstateNYUPSer(Ret)]

You are wrong Dave guys who take their lunch or break at the building at the end of day they are still punched in and the trucks are being moved. Once again you have no clue.

Your post proves that I am right---the PC and DIAD are still linked until the driver either swaps cars or punches out.

My post was based on the drivers having already punched out.

 

[30 to life]

It turns "off" when you "return to building"


I kept getting hit with "driving with bulkhead door open"... When I pull up to the airdock to unload air, I wouldn't shut the door when pulling back into dock space

I have been told that they turn it off once you are back on property.

not in my center

not in my center

Your post proves that I am right---the PC and DIAD are still linked until the driver either swaps cars or punches out.

My post was based on the drivers having already punched out.

You said car washers don't generate Telematics but they do

 

[728ups]

No one saw me and they can't prove jack . Just at the point after 20 yrs I'm really starting to see what a screwed up place this really is. On car gave me the letter and said it's just part work they are making him do. Just tired of the crap.

dont take it personal, just file under article 37,63 and all others that may apply and it will be dropped. it's just a BS game they play every so often so it looks to higher management they are 'addressing problems'

 

[tiredofhelping]

This is complete and total BS!!

Telematics only works when the PC is
linked to a DIAD.

Car washers do not generate Telematics' violations.

WRONG! I was once talked to about my excessive idle time. Telematics report showed 80 minutes of idle time on day. After I had clocked out, the mechanic was trying to get my truck to duplicate something it was doing during the day. Had it idling in his bay and it showed up under my name.


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[MenInBrown]

One thing they hate hearing you say is,"i will try harder". Then walk away

 

[By The Book]

So you never would have mentioned that we aren't allowed to be disciplined based solely off technology!? *shrug

I see where you would disagree with my post. My intent was to say that since they gave him a warning letter, it's a small thing that is easily corrected without making a stand. I felt after reading his post that he made it worse for himself by making a stand. I was saying to pick your battles, and let the small stuff go. I would have mentioned the discipline about technology and possibly even verified it happened. Then the next time they go there they know I would get them for discrimination if not everyone is treated the same. Then if I did that I give them the idea to give everyone a warning letter and I'm bringing discipline on the members so that's why I say to pick your battles and let the small ones that can be fixed go., so they don't put you under the microscope.

 

[Brownslave688]

I see where you would disagree with my post. My intent was to say that since they gave him a warning letter, it's a small thing that is easily corrected without making a stand. I felt after reading his post that he made it worse for himself by making a stand. I was saying to pick your battles, and let the small stuff go. I would have mentioned the discipline about technology and possibly even verified it happened. Then the next time they go there they know I would get them for discrimination if not everyone is treated the same. Then if I did that I give them the idea to give everyone a warning letter and I'm bringing discipline on the members so that's why I say to pick your battles and let the small ones that can be fixed go., so they don't put you under the microscope.

So our stewards are saying pick your battles wow. My battle is any and all contract violations.

 

[10 point]

This is complete and total BS!!

Telematics only works when the PC is
linked to a DIAD.

Car washers do not generate Telematics' violations.

If the carwasher pulls your car out before you punch out you can get nailed for it. You can if you're within 200 ft of that car we were told.

 

[10 point]

I see where you would disagree with my post. My intent was to say that since they gave him a warning letter, it's a small thing that is easily corrected without making a stand. I felt after reading his post that he made it worse for himself by making a stand. I was saying to pick your battles, and let the small stuff go. I would have mentioned the discipline about technology and possibly even verified it happened. Then the next time they go there they know I would get them for discrimination if not everyone is treated the same. Then if I did that I give them the idea to give everyone a warning letter and I'm bringing discipline on the members so that's why I say to pick your battles and let the small ones that can be fixed go., so they don't put you under the microscope.

So, within the next 9 months his seatbelt contact throws a bogus code and he goes to a hearing ... is that the time to fight the issue?

The management doesn't give our drivers letters over telematics alone. It doesn't work that way.

 

[MethodsMan]

Telematics can't be trusted. There's a reason why we have the language regarding using telematics for discipline in the contract. I had a time where it said I backed over 90 times in a day. I've had recording while travels that were completely bogus as well. When I've been confronted about it, I just tell them I don't know what to say, but its just not true. The issue is dropped. I have no need to drive around pushing buttons and stop completing stuff.

 

[UpstateNYUPSer(Ret)]

You said car washers don't generate Telematics but they do

If this indeed the case it would be very easy for mgt to determine if the violations occurred after the drivers had returned to the building.

 

[UpstateNYUPSer(Ret)]

WRONG! I was once talked to about my excessive idle time. Telematics report showed 80 minutes of idle time on day. After I had clocked out, the mechanic was trying to get my truck to duplicate something it was doing during the day. Had it idling in his bay and it showed up under my name.

Once you punch out for the day your DIAD is no longer linked to your PC.

 

[Wally]

WRONG! I was once talked to about my excessive idle time. Telematics report showed 80 minutes of idle time on day. After I had clocked out, the mechanic was trying to get my truck to duplicate something it was doing during the day. Had it idling in his bay and it showed up under my name.


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Every winter we the the same thing. Management is trying to tell us , if you take lunch in the truck, the engine has to stay off no matter how cold it is. The union does nothing.