TENTATIVE AGREEMENT REACHED AT UPS

Steamer

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Well, everything gained in this contract could be lost if it's voted down. It would actually be starting over from scratch. There has to be give and take. Some pain for both.

They can't fix everything in a single contract. It's like the largest raises in the history of union contracts with UPS.
If it's voted down it could end up being a fight, strikes, and everything lost. Those raises aren't binding if it's voted down. I'm in progression myself as an RPCD; and I don't gain anything until I hit top rate. But that's how it is. You work towards a goal. You aren't handed the end result. But think of the part timers that could use $21 an hour on and so forth. Or lose it. Let alone the nice other thing in the tentative agreement like RPCD for all 22.4 and stronger language for other things.

Just remember how you felt worrying about a strike just a week ago. People have such short memories in today's fast paced world. Yes, it's kind of like negotiating a used car sale on a lot. The first offer might not be the best you could get. But then again you could also lose the entire deal if you don't concede some.
Lose it all for a little more? Healthcare, and your job. Sitting in a strike line as scabs take work? No paycheck coming in? They could also break a union as well if they can cover just enough with scabs off of the street. All they would have to do is offer $35 an hour. No medical or anything else. They would still save a ton of money and probably gain a bunch of other professional drivers from other companies. Like Fedex, Amazon, and so on.
 
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Brownwind

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Well, everything gained in this contract could be lost if it's voted down. It would actually be starting over from scratch. There has to be give and take. Some pain for both.

They can't fix everything in a single contract. It's like the largest raises in the history of union contracts with UPS.
If it's voted down it could end up being a fight, strikes, and everything lost. Those raises aren't binding if it's voted down. I'm in progression myself as an RPCD; and I don't gain anything until I hit top rate. But that's how it is. You work towards a goal. You aren't handed the end result. But think of the part timers that could use $21 an hour on and so forth. Or lose it. Let alone the nice other thing in the tentative agreement like RPCD for all 22.4 and stronger language for other things.

Just remember how you felt worrying about a strike just a week ago. People have such short memories in today's fast paced world. Yes, it's kind of like negotiating a used car sale on a lot. The first offer might not be the best you could get. But then again you could also lose the entire deal if you don't concede some.
Lose it all for a little more? Healthcare, and your job. Sitting in a strike line as scabs take work? No paycheck coming in? They could also break a union as well if they can cover just enough with scabs off of the street. All they would have to do is offer $35 an hour. No medical or anything else. They would still save a ton of money and probably gain a bunch of other professional drivers from other companies. Like Fedex, Amazon, and so on.
I usually follow your posts and tolerate your negative comments towards me. This post differentiates your previous post and is definitely worthy of my response.
Our future is at stake and we have a solid solution in front of us. It’s a good opportunity to move forward. The greatest company and union agreed to the terms.

Enjoy the progress and keep our integrity
 

PT Car Washer

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I usually follow your posts and tolerate your negative comments towards me. This post differentiates your previous post and is definitely worthy of my response.
Our future is at stake and we have a solid solution in front of us. It’s a good opportunity to move forward. The greatest company and union agreed to the terms.

Enjoy the progress and keep our integrity
Vote no.
 

PT Car Washer

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Why. We got more than we asked.

You and I aren’t even affected. Our fate is sealed due to our age. We’re leaving the post better than we found it.
You are correct. I am getting the largest one year hourly increase in pay, a raise in my PT pension which I will be collecting very soon. Still leaves the company with a McDonalds wages majority PT Union workforce.
 

Coldworld

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The people who built bomb shelters want to test it out.
You talking about the strike bunker buddy???? We’ve been shut down by the health dept so I have @IVE GOTTA PACKAGE 4U on the line with our realtor trying to get rid of it… going for Pennies on the dollar and damn thing has 10k worth of 4lokos and Chinese made slim Jim’s inside…I could seriously cry right now.
 
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Steamer

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Brown Down

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Might want to take a gander at subsection (v)...
It's too early for me to start looking at that pdf. Is that where it says can't force you into overtime? I'friend so what's your thoughts on the strange wording? My take is if you take a layoff during the week and they need extra on Saturdays they could force you because technically you wouldn't be in it until after 8 but not someone who already worked 5 days and would be in it from the start.
 

Thebrownblob

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It's too early for me to start looking at that pdf. Is that where it says can't force you into overtime? I'friend so what's your thoughts on the strange wording? My take is if you take a layoff during the week and they need extra on Saturdays they could force you because technically you wouldn't be in it until after 8 but not someone who already worked 5 days and would be in it from the start.
Like I said, it’s messy I don’t know what their intention is there, we have meetings coming up I will try to find out. Any language like that the company will try to exploit.
 

What'dyabringmetoday???

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It's too early for me to start looking at that pdf. Is that where it says can't force you into overtime? I'friend so what's your thoughts on the strange wording? My take is if you take a layoff during the week and they need extra on Saturdays they could force you because technically you wouldn't be in it until after 8 but not someone who already worked 5 days and would be in it from the start.
I'm saying that if they don't have enough drivers some of the drivers will still end up being forced in. Union will allow it.
 

Pullman Brown

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It’s messy
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A decision to force drivers in would completely make the union look like a bunch of idiots seeing there is language that says no driver can be forced in on their day off. All they need to do is just add language that says the committee’s decision cannot contradict or strike down section 1b.
 
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