TENTATIVE AGREEMENT REACHED AT UPS

Lineandinitial

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jewish french bots in full effect today.
Waaahhhhh. Poor pathetic sissy boy that no one listens to. Waaahhhhh
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Brown Biscuit

Blind every day
Haven’t read all of these posts yet, but this is the biggest win in my eyes by far. The pure joy that will come when they ask me to volunteer for Saturday.. I will laugh comically loud every time right in their face. Never forget the way they treated us the last 5 years!
 

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HarryWarden

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Remember, the whole committee had to agree, not just SOB. If you don't like what they agreed to, find another Union that you may think will do better. Or try and negotiate yourself without a Union. You will be at Old Dominion and FedEx wages of $28-$30/hr.
A lot of the issues were taking away things that were forced in the last contract. That union committee agreed on those issues and we voted no, you’re saying people should have just accepted them or gotten a different job if they didn’t like it?
 

Trucker Clock

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A lot of the issues were taking away things that were forced in the last contract. That union committee agreed on those issues and we voted no, you’re saying people should have just accepted them or gotten a different job if they didn’t like it?

Different members last year. It was all up to Hoffa and he was in the Company’s pocket.

Yea, you can still vote no. But the people we elected to negotiate a contract, did just that. And SOB is not in the Company’s pocket like Hoffa was.
 

RTS313

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Drop a link here if you can.
 
Yep. Now it's a $15-$20 pay difference. We did good.



It's not the first offer. It's probably the 4th or 5th. It's the offer that your Teamster National Negotiating Committee, including rank and file members, agreed that it was a fair offer and probably the best they were going to get without a strike, that neither side wanted.

A strike is a last resort, if the Company does not give a good offer. A strike is not a tool to try and get a few more dollars after an agreement has been reached by your elected Negotiating Committee.

You do the same job as Old Dominion, FedEx, Pitt, Dayton, etc. but make $20/hr more. Thank the Union.

Remember, the whole committee had to agree, not just SOB. If you don't like what they agreed to, find another Union that you may think will do better. Or try and negotiate yourself without a Union. You will be at Old Dominion and FedEx wages of $28-$30/hr.

We will be almost $20/hr higher than them, with full benefits and a full pension. Quit your bitchin.
Just shows how ignorant you are! And got your head so far up who knows what! $20-$30 an hour at those companies was five years ago they’re close to 40 bucks an hour now! Look it up! Obviously, we do make more money than them, but the gap is way closer than it ever has been, thanks to our union! Idiot.
 
Lol another person who does not understand the total benefits package good Lord.smh wasn’t you argument we used to make $10 more? You’re right it’s completely screwed up now we make almost $15 more L O L.
Unfortunately, you’re sadly mistaken and incorrect! Those companies are in the high $30 per hour right now. Sadly, ABF is not. And most of those companies have a decent benefit package whether anybody admits to that or not. It’s obviously not as good as ours and probably never will be but it’s not far off. The mileage pay at those LTL companies, which is what 90% of them get paid(line haul/road drivers) puts them around 45 bucks an hour when you break it down which is more than what we make now. You have to look at the overall big picture. And my comment is based on the fact that everybody in the industry is closer to us now than they ever have been in the past and that’s because our negotiations have been week for the last several contracts, and this contract proves the same after all the hype talk!
 

Thebrownblob

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Unfortunately, you’re sadly mistaken and incorrect! Those companies are in the high $30 per hour right now. Sadly, ABF is not. And most of those companies have a decent benefit package whether anybody admits to that or not. It’s obviously not as good as ours and probably never will be but it’s not far off. The mileage pay at those LTL companies, which is what 90% of them get paid(line haul/road drivers) puts them around 45 bucks an hour when you break it down which is more than what we make now. You have to look at the overall big picture. And my comment is based on the fact that everybody in the industry is closer to us now than they ever have been in the past and that’s because our negotiations have been week for the last several contracts, and this contract proves the same after all the hype talk!
Lol I’m not sadly mistaken, you are ,I’m well aware of what these companies make and what their benefits package looks like top to bottom. They don’t touch the Guarantees we have as Teamsters with a contract. And let’s be clear just in case you’re not understanding the only reason those other companies make even close to us is because of us, do you understand? My local was exactly to go two votes away from organizing XPO, nobody denied that going with the Teamsters would’ve been monetarily and benefit package wise a huge boost. The company had to come in an offer more money to change a few peoples mind at the end. It’s not over we will be back.
 
Lol I’m not sadly mistaken, you are ,I’m well aware of what these companies make and what their benefits package looks like top to bottom. They don’t touch the Guarantees we have as Teamsters with a contract. And let’s be clear just in case you’re not understanding the only reason those other companies make even close to us is because of us, do you understand? My local was exactly to go two votes away from organizing XPO, nobody denied that going with the Teamsters would’ve been monetarily and benefit package wise a huge boost. The company had to come in an offer more money to change a few peoples mind at the end. It’s not over we will be back.
And I hope we get XPO and FedEx Freight and Old Dominion, etc....., The problem is as you stated the companies come back with bigger better stuff to keep the union out. Old Dominion and FedEx Freight both have said and made it clear they would do whatever it takes to keep us out. With the mileage pay they both get, they are making over $45 buck an hour when you average it out and we will only be at $49 in 2028 besides the fact they are in the upper $30 an hour range when they are on the clock. We have to be better. And having a contract does not guarantee you anything, unfortunately, look what is happening to our Brothers and Sisters at Yellow!! Word is Bankruptcy is coming and the show is over, I pray not!! Nothing is guaranteed this day and time anymore, but we do come close.
 

Thebrownblob

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And I hope we get XPO and FedEx Freight and Old Dominion, etc....., The problem is as you stated the companies come back with bigger better stuff to keep the union out. Old Dominion and FedEx Freight both have said and made it clear they would do whatever it takes to keep us out. With the mileage pay they both get, they are making over $45 buck an hour when you average it out and we will only be at $49 in 2028 besides the fact they are in the upper $30 an hour range when they are on the clock. We have to be better. And having a contract does not guarantee you anything, unfortunately, look what is happening to our Brothers and Sisters at Yellow!! Word is Bankruptcy is coming and the show is over, I pray not!! Nothing is guaranteed this day and time anymore, but we do come close.
First and foremost, you can’t use Yellow as an example of anything other than piss, poor management. If you even try to qualify any kind of negotiations with a yellow is going through your completely clueless.

secondly, every single, one of these people who work at these nonunion carriers who have been approached to go union, and their companies have given them either more benefits or more money has already told us. The company has renege as soon as the threat was over, and the workers are getting wise to this.

pretending anything in life is guaranteed is sophistry, but there’s no better guarantee then having a union contract if you’re a blue-collar worker.
 

UnionStrong

Sorry, but I don’t care anymore.
First and foremost, you can’t use Yellow as an example of anything other than piss, poor management. If you even try to qualify any kind of negotiations with a yellow is going through your completely clueless.

secondly, every single, one of these people who work at these nonunion carriers who have been approached to go union, and their companies have given them either more benefits or more money has already told us. The company has renege as soon as the threat was over, and the workers are getting wise to this.

pretending anything in life is guaranteed is sophistry, but there’s no better guarantee then having a union contract if you’re a blue-collar worker.
Sophistry?…..I wish you were my stewie.
 

Trucker Clock

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The mileage pay at those LTL companies, which is what 90% of them get paid(line haul/road drivers) puts them around 45 bucks an hour when you break it down which is more than what we make now.

Try again.

FedEx Freight advertises $0.65 per mile. We're at $0.97.

Dayton Freight advertises $0.77 per mile or $32.75/hr.

Estes advertises $0.71 per mile or $28-$33/hr.
 

Trucker Clock

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secondly, every single, one of these people who work at these nonunion carriers who have been approached to go union, and their companies have given them either more benefits or more money has already told us. The company has renege as soon as the threat was over, and the workers are getting wise to this.

That is the only reason they are making $32/hr. Just enough to keep them from going Union.
 

eats packages

Deranged lunatic
What the heck is a PT unborn? is the company just trying to throw all the new hires under the bus? They need to bump the pay for years 1 to 3 if they wanted me to sell out the blue vests.
 
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