TENTATIVE AGREEMENT REACHED AT UPS

[Just A UPS Guy]

Everyone would continue working and those in the 5 defeated supplements would continue to work under the terms of their current supplements until the new ones have been ratified.


$2.75/hr on 8/1/23 and $4.75/hr spread out over the last 4 years, with COLA added if applicable.

Congratulations! This is far more generous that I ever imagined. MLK added as a holiday (I would have preferred an additional optional day). The creation of 7,500 FT jobs and the fulfillment of 22,500 open positions (?) over the life of the contract. PTers bumped to $21/hr to start with GWI raises. No more forced OT and the seniority based option of M-friend or T-S. AC in new PCs purchased and put in to service on or after 1/1/24. On the downside, it does not appear that 9.5 was addressed. It was suggested above that the payroll system be tweaked to add automatic penalty for anyone who works over 9.5----while this is probably not going to happen, something needs to be done to reduce dispatch and to add some teeth to the 9.5 grievance process, to include penalties for grievances not resolved and/or paid in a timely manner.

This is why it was crucial to continue making pickups and to NOT advise your larger accounts to move their volume to a competitor, even on a short term basis as they most likely would not have come back.

The key now is to make sure everyone votes. It couldn't be easier----everything is mailed to the address that the union has on file. Open outer envelope, mark ballot, reassemble as directed, drop in mailbox. Shop stewards and senior drivers need to get the word out to everyone in their buildings to VOTE. Come in a bit early and get with the PTers to make sure that they vote.

Shup up tard and don't ever quote me.

 

[MECH-II]

Congratulations! This is far more generous that I ever imagined.

Thanks to my generation

I’m glad all you boomer scaredy cats finally almost extinct.

 

[anonymous23456]

For those who complain that isn't enough. Have you seen the Hollywood writers are on strike for the 5th month? My relative is in this industry and no paycheck coming for the foreseeable future.

 

[anonymous23456]

Don’t see anything about earlier start times…VOTE NO

You can come early and help preloads.

 

[Its_a_me]

So a PT’er making less than $20:

Say those that started in 2013—which started at $8.50 per hour and now make $19.30–in places without MRA’s) would get a $2.75 taking them to $22.05 (above the $21 magic threshold) and then $1.50 catch up raise taking them to $23.55.

A 5 year part that started (again without MRA’s) in 2018 will now make that $21 minimum plus the $1.50 catch-up taking them to $22.50.

So 10 years of service is worth:
$0.355 more per year than a new hire or $2.55 more total
and $0.21 more per year than a 5 year vet or $1.05 more total.

and 5 years of service is worth
$0.30 more per year than a new hire

This isn’t going to help retention for PT’ers it’s barely above fast food minimums of $20. This isn’t going to organize Amazon as they pay their PT’ers $21 already…

…and this threatened strike was about them?

so their selling point is what?

yr2 $1.40 raise
yr3 $1.40 raise
yr4 $1.60 raise
yr5 $2.00 raise
1 extra holiday and the ability to drive their person vehicle into the ground during peak? With a promise that they fill about the amount of full time positions that retire normally during a contract?

someone help me I don’t see iy as a win given the company’s profits…

 

[MECH-II]

You can come early and help preloads.

9.5 violation by 1pm? Sounds good

 

[PCM Troll]

So many people jumping to conclusions getting everyone worked up instead of waiting for all the details first. Calm down and get back to work!

 

[Sacrificial Lamb]

Calm down and get back to work!

I’m calling in sick today. Lol

 

[TheBrownNote]

For those who complain that isn't enough. Have you seen the Hollywood writers are on strike for the 5th month? My relative is in this industry and no paycheck coming for the foreseeable future.

Youre an absolute . It hasnt been 5 months. They went on strike may 2. Just like management. Yapping your mouth without knowing what youre talking about.

 

[Brownslave688]

It is a compromise by both sides. Do you want UPS to lose to FedEx or DHL or USPS?

IF I’m union and the company is making record profits. Giving share holders 100% increase in money paid to them. I expect to at the very least keep up with inflation.

 

[Wontmake9.5]

Past contracts, we screwed the PTers. If there was $10 to go around, we took the whole $10. They got nothing and we got everything. This time around, at least in appearance, the FTers were standing up for the PTers.

Now, they did better. There was $10 to go around. In appearance, we stood up for the PTers and gave them $2.50 of our $10.

I just think we could have both is all. Ups has the money

 

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This is great, did anyone notice how calm ups was during this,,,smoke and mirrors.....now our new leader is a hero...set up to [look what i did at ups......look out Fed-x and Amazon

 

[Just A UPS Guy]

So a PT’er making less than $20:

Say those that started in 2013—which started at $8.50 per hour and now make $19.30–in places without MRA’s) would get a $2.75 taking them to $22.05 (above the $21 magic threshold) and then $1.50 catch up raise taking them to $23.55.

A 5 year part that started (again without MRA’s) in 2018 will now make that $21 minimum plus the $1.50 catch-up taking them to $22.50.

So 10 years of service is worth:
$0.355 more per year than a new hire or $2.55 more total
and $0.21 more per year than a 5 year vet or $1.05 more total.

and 5 years of service is worth
$0.30 more per year than a new hire

This isn’t going to help retention for PT’ers it’s barely above fast food minimums of $20. This isn’t going to organize Amazon as they pay their PT’ers $21 already…

…and this threatened strike was about them?

so their selling point is what?

yr2 $1.40 raise
yr3 $1.40 raise
yr4 $1.60 raise
yr5 $2.00 raise
1 extra holiday and the ability to drive their person vehicle into the ground during peak? With a promise that they fill about the amount of full time positions that retire normally a contract?

someone help me I don’t see iy as a win given the company’s profits…

Long-time PTers are a small group of the whole, just like top-rate drivers are now a small group. Ive heard and read that ~40% of all drivers, feeder and package, are under 5 years. Top rate drivers are getting 6.5% up front and 18% overall while others are getting significantly more. Who do you please if you can't please everyone? Shoot for the masses, drivers in progression and lower tier PTers make the majority. This now increases starting pay above Amazon with legitimate benefits, not some ty 80/20 insurance with $2,500 deductibles like ive seem they have now. It's an improvement from their position by a wide margin, whether they want to see it or not.

 

[Trucker Clock]

someone help me I don’t see iy as a win

Let's see.

Over the past 30 years, the PTers got a $7.50 raise. That's $0.25/yr.

They will get around $11-$15 over the next 5 years. Looks like a win.

 

[MattM]

If I'm reading this correctly, part timers will go to $21 an hour once ratified. Seniority part timers will be up to an additional $1.75 on top of that. That's a huge gain for us.

I’m a lowly part timer here. I hope we get some sort of catch-up benefit over new hires.

The last contract part timers within a 2-5 year seniority range got a 90 cent raise while everyone else got something like 2.50-$3.25.


Right now part timers with 10 years seniority are barely at $19. 12 year vets are at $21. So basically new hires are at 12 year veteran level, and the veterans are making $1.75 more?

I guess it’s sort of like that now. New hires are at $16.65 I believe and 10 year seniors are at $19.20. That’s a $2.55 difference. The difference now seems significantly less.

They still don’t want lifer part timers it seems.

 

[Brownwind]

You can come early and help preloads.

6 am daily start time makes it an easier Friday

 

[Just A UPS Guy]

Shup up tard and don't ever quote me.

In case anyone wondered just how much of a man @UpstateNYUPSer(Ret) is... I know, super surprised, right?

 

[Pee Bottle]

Strike doomers BTFO. You absolute pusillanimous. Same mfs that probably took the jab two winters ago.

 

[nWo]

I don't look at making $49/hr plus pension health welfare to deliver as getting screwed. It could be better but it's all pretty damn good.

 

[Trucker Clock]

Long-time PTers are a small group of the whole, just like top-rate drivers are now a small group. Ive heard and read that ~40% of all drivers, feeder and package, are under 5 years. Top rate drivers are getting 6.5% up front and 18% overall while others are getting significantly more. Who do you please if you can't please everyone? Shoot for the masses, drivers in progression and lower tier PTers make the majority. This now increases starting pay above Amazon with legitimate benefits, not some ty 80/20 insurance with $2,500 deductibles like ive seem they have now. It's an improvement from their position by a wide margin, whether they want to see it or not.

Some on here don't care. They will find any excuse to strike to "pay back" UPS for the way they are treated.

I've said before, give them $100/hr and they would still strike. It's not perfect, but we made huge gains. Hoffa couldn't have even come close to what SOB got. And we can't expect to get everything at once. We got most everything. I'm sure, there is already plans, on what to get, for the next contract.