EXACTLY what I'm thinking. The "milennial" part-timers are more likely to vote since it's online, and they're also more likely to vote "yes" because of that immediate pay bump. I bet once we get the fine print we'll see even more things catered to part-timers to garner a "yes" vote from them...
His dream was to be a back up dancer for Coldplay.
Its smoke and mirrors. Most places have a retention bonus for new hires if you show up to work everyday.
All it'll take is a little bit of swaying from management to get them to vote it in. The newest ones are impressionable. And again, it's like they made it easier this time around for people to vote for a reason.
He doesn’t get it ... this wasn’t all about hourly wage... we wanted a host of other things including better harassment language which looks like was left out again....this company walks all over people and the international union has just turned a blind eye to it....the locals can try their hardest but if we do t have support from the top then the battle is long and tedious...Does anyone start at UPS making $40/hr? Nah, so you're obvious attempt at selling this pile of dogis already irrelevant....but just to entertain you, Do your homework. Around here, any labor union whether it's plumbers, carpenters, welders, whatever...all already top out at over $40/hr...most closer to $50. Sure, it takes years to get to that rate, but so does UPS.
there are places where nobody wants to drive for 36 an hour and a four year wait.. so let’s start them at 20 and work the weekends and any time they want.... ups is going to be fked in a few years when they can’t get anyone to do this job.... I NEVER thought I would see drivers being hired off the street and then quit 10, 12 months later....we are at a crossroads and ups better step it up....
Not that I have a lot of knowledge on the subject, but it sure has seemed that a lot of Union “brothers” have been bought off contract after contract for little more than a signing bonus.You don't seem to understand the meaning of a "brotherhood", do you? For example, if your brother was about to be given, say, a
No one said full-timers were "oppressing" the part-timers, but they are complicit in it by voting through contracts that don't take care of them. And this is the end result, a contract where the tables could very well be turned against the full-timers in favor of the historically overlooked part-timers.
You're right. Ideally it would be a brotherhood. In actuality it's not. Not even close. That's what I'm trying to push, though. That's why I'm spreading the word amongst the part-timers in my hub to vote "no" even if it seems like a good deal for them. I'm trying to get them to understand the long-term implications of this subpar contract in a booming UPS economy. Despite the fact that plenty of full-timers have been complicit (again, not all, but most) in passing through contracts that screw the part-timers, I'm still willing to be the idealist who tries to push for true unity that hasn't been seen since the pay rates for part-timers and full-timers has diverged so greatly since the 80s.
They say that at every contract.
Changing your tune are we?You don't seem to understand the meaning of a "brotherhood", do you? For example, if your brother was about to be given, say, a
No one said full-timers were "oppressing" the part-timers, but they are complicit in it by voting through contracts that don't take care of them. And this is the end result, a contract where the tables could very well be turned against the full-timers in favor of the historically overlooked part-timers.
They haven’t had a signing bonus since I’ve been here... 25+ years.....stop running counterintelligence here....
I never got a bonus from ups but a sore back
Seriously? My bad.
Please, show me where I said anything different from what I've said in the post you quoted. That's what I've said the whole time. The full-timers are pushing through contracts that are not looking out for their part-timer brothers and sisters. The full-timers are not "oppressing" the part-timers (meaning that they are not looking at contracts that suck for the part-timers and saying "Hey, let's vote yes because it sucks for part-timers!", but rather, they are checking to see if they are getting theirs and ignoring the rest. You can try to make it look like I'm "changing my tune", but let's see if you can back that up.
do you have to pay for your own uniform
5 to 1 odds you don't do anything about it.This is
Management delivered the message at PCM
