Tentative contract

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Teamsters reach tentative deal with UPS, delivering $30 billion in gains over 5 years

Teamsters say tentative deal reached with UPS, averting logistics chaos and walkout by 340,000 unionized workers.

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"The raises would be given on a spectrum: those who have five years of service would get $0.50 per hour; those with 10 years would get $1 and those with 15 years would get $1.50, according to a source familiar with the negotiations."

Oh man there's a '79 here

 

[Jetboat1]

Not how i read it.

$18.50 + $2.75= $21.25 > 21

21.25 is not less than 21 the wage increase isn't 4.75 on top of 21. it's 21 is the floor after wage increase of 2.75.

Now add up to 1.50 catch up raise.

So like I said 22 and change.

So if you make 16.20 currently (16.20 + 2.75 < 21 so you get bumped to 21 + whatever part of that catch up UP TO 1.50 you get. Putting you slightly ahead of a new hire.

If you make 16.20 how long have you worked at UPS like a year? You will still get greater raises every year than a new hire.

 

[Jetboat1]

So this fight to the end was primarily over part time starting wage and long time part timer catch-up wages? And the best SOB could do was $21/start (which is less than some centers pay to start already) and $1.50/hour for ALL senior part timers? So the guy who has been a part timer with say 5 years seniority gets a $1.50/hour bump and another guy who has 15 years seniority gets the same $1.50/hour? It's a flat $1.50/hour no matter how many years? That blows for those who have been around for several years. The pay gap for long time part-timers and new hires continues to shrink under this proposal.

I believe its $.50 for every 5 years of employment. Less then 5 yrs no part of the $1.50. 5 years $.50 10 years $1.00 15 years or more the full $1.50.

 

[Jetboat1]

A large number of $190.00 calls were closed.

Well the stock price will continue to be under pressure UPS has increased its lead over its competition in paying its workforce higher wages. For a commodity like package delivery that bodes poorly for future stock price increases.

 

[Jetboat1]

If you are at $18 an hour now, do you get bumped to $21 and then also get the $2.75 on top of that?

I don't think so, but wait for the actual contract to be released.

 

[HarryWarden]

If you make 16.20 how long have you worked at UPS like a year? You will still get greater raises every year than a new hire.

I’ve worked at ups for over ten years and am barely at $18

 

[Trucker Clock]

So this fight to the end was primarily over part time starting wage and long time part timer catch-up wages? And the best SOB could do was $21/start (which is less than some centers pay to start already) and $1.50/hour for ALL senior part timers? So the guy who has been a part timer with say 5 years seniority gets a $1.50/hour bump and another guy who has 15 years seniority gets the same $1.50/hour? It's a flat $1.50/hour no matter how many years? That blows for those who have been around for several years. The pay gap for long time part-timers and new hires continues to shrink under this proposal.

There is no pay gap for an 4 year ROCD who just finished progression and a 50 year driver. The same pay for the same job, without taking into account length of service.

That’s how it should be.

The same for PTers. The same pay for the same job. The senior PTers only got a bump because they have been held back in raises over the years.

The $1.50 is not to be a pay gap between the two. It is to make up for lost raises for the next however many years they work at an extra $1.50/hr. It could be thousands of dollars extra in the long run.

 

[Jetboat1]

I’ve worked at ups for over ten years and am barely at $18

Well my understanding is that on August, 1 you will go to $21 an hour and at the end of the contract you will be at $25.75. If you pay rate is$18 an hour that would be an increase of $7.75 over the contract or an increase of 43 percent. Plus you will get part of the long time part timer raise I'm guessing an additional $1.00. Stay tuned for the actual wording of the contract when it is released.

 

[Brownwind]

Well my understanding is that on August, 1 you will go to $21 an hour and at the end of the contract you will be at $25.75. If you pay rate is$18 an hour that would be an increase of $7.75 over the contract or an increase of 43 percent. Plus you will get part of the long time part timer raise I'm guessing an additional $1.00. Stay tuned for the actual wording of the contract when it is released.

Enjoy the raise. Obviously it’s never going to live up to expectations but it’s definitely a quality increase. I tell the jr guys I work with that they got hired at a lesser wage (and they agreed to it) now you’re making way more due to MRA.
Realistically you got three options. Enjoy the raise, go full time or move on. Trying to keep positive but reading the comments makes me question what our members want. Stay tuned

 

[HarryWarden]

Well my understanding is that on August, 1 you will go to $21 an hour and at the end of the contract you will be at $25.75. If you pay rate is$18 an hour that would be an increase of $7.75 over the contract or an increase of 43 percent. Plus you will get part of the long time part timer raise I'm guessing an additional $1.00. Stay tuned for the actual wording of the contract when it is released.

I just got my hopes up too much with this “historic” contract. Ups is paying more starting wage with MRA then I will be making at the end of the 5 year contract.

 

[Started on Paper]

Yeah, I started at $8.50 an hour in 2010 so I had a very long climb, but every raise I got they matched it for new hires

Starting wage was also $8.50 in 1980 which was about $33 an hour after inflation, my $8.50 was about $11

That is not true where I worked. I started in 1987 at $8 an hour.

 

[Buffet Master]

Just stepped out of the truck at the Philly airport and caught an odor wafting in out of the south from the DC direction; smells a whole lot like No to me at the moment.

 

[MIX_MASTER_ICE]

I believe its $.50 for every 5 years of employment. Less then 5 yrs no part of the $1.50. 5 years $.50 10 years $1.00 15 years or more the full $1.50.

Yeah, that looks like how they laid it out. Somebody with 4 year seniority gets the big 0 shaft. Somebody with 9 years of PT seniority will get a whopping .50 bump. That's kind of a slap in the face, especially when this final battle between SOB and UPS was mainly about PT starting wages and catch up raises for long time part-timers. Looks to me like UPS won that battle handily on both fronts.

 

[trotsky]

That’s what it sounds like . Everyone has their opinion but I think that’s damn good for my dumb non educated ass to drive and throw cardboard

Take some pride in yourself..you dont need college or ups to make money.

 

[HarryWarden]

Yeah, that looks like how they laid it out. Somebody with 4 year seniority gets the big 0 shaft. Somebody with 9 years of PT seniority will get a whopping .50 bump. That's kind of a slap in the face, especially when this final battle between SOB and UPS was mainly about PT starting wages and catch up raises for long time part-timers. Looks to me like UPS won that battle handily on both fronts.

I am starting to think those longevity raises might be for every raise in the contract, though, and would make it much “historic”.

If that’s true, $1 longevity raise would bring you to $30.5 by the end of the contract

 

[MIX_MASTER_ICE]

I am starting to think those longevity raises might be for every raise in the contract, though, and would make it much “historic”.

If that’s true, $1 longevity raise would bring you to $30.5 by the end of the contract

heynicetits posted this over at another contract thread. The longevity raise is year one and a one time raise.​

 

[HarryWarden]

heynicetits posted this over at another contract thread. The longevity raise is year one and a one time raise.​

Well, thanks for that info. That in sucks

I don’t know why teamsters would use the term “compounding raises” to reference the longevity raise

 

[MIX_MASTER_ICE]

Well, thanks for that info. That in sucks

I don’t know why teamsters would use the term “compounding raises” to reference the longevity raise

I'm pretty sure they were referring to the year one contract raise and the longevity raise added together.

 

[BigUnionGuy]

Strike Threat Makes UPS Deliver

UPS walked away from the bargaining table on July 5 after telling our union, “We have nothing more to give you.” Today, the company returned to the table and agreed to a tentative agreement that forces the company to deliver record wage increases on top of all the improvements we had already won...

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https://assets.nationbuilder.com/teamstersforademocraticunion/pages/12934/attachments/original/1689541306/UPS_National_Master_TA_Highlights_%281%29.pdf?1689541306

 

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