Tentative contract

[UpstateNYUPSer(Ret)]

Newer drivers absolutely got screwed over. Part timers are now getting $4 raises by me, so with us only getting what is is $2.75, drivers at the low end are now even closer to part timers

....and at the end of the 4 year progression they will be making $49/hr...

 

[nWo]

 

[MIX_MASTER_ICE]

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So this clears up the confusion about the $2.75 August 2023 raise being part of the total 5 year $7.50 or not. So after they front-load the annual raise of $2.75 this year, the remining 4 years averages roughly $1.18/year. That won't even keep up with inflation. And the "oh-so-generous" $1.50/hour "longevity increase" doesn't apply with less than 5 years seniority and there is still yet no mention of how many years seniority it takes to get the full $1.50 and how that amount will decrease based on years service. I don't know about how others feel, but based on the rough and tough talk by SOB all during this process, this is a pretty piss-poor effort. I feel like UPS got away like a bandit, at least on this aspect of the contract.

 

[HarryWarden]

So this clears up the confusion about the $2.75 August 2023 raise being part of the total 5 year $7.50 or not. So after they front-load the annual raise of $2.75 this year, the remining 4 years averages roughly $1.18/year. That won't even keep up with inflation. And the "oh-so-generous" $1.50/hour "longevity increase" doesn't apply with less than 5 years seniority and there is still yet no mention of how many years seniority it takes to get the full $1.50 and how that amount will decrease based on years service. I don't know about how others feel, but based on the rough and tough talk by SOB all during this process, this is a pretty piss-poor effort. I feel like UPS got away like a bandit, at least on this aspect of the contract.

So if understand correctly, starting rate is now $21 and all employees get a $2.75 raise. BUT if you are currently under $21 now, you don’t get bumped to $21 AND get the $2.75 raise…

So me at $18, my $2.75 will bring me to $20.75, then I’ll get increased to $21 and that’s it?

If so, I’m voting no

 

[UnionStrong]

So if understand correctly, starting rate is now $21 and all employees get a $2.75 raise. BUT if you are currently under $21 now, you don’t get bumped to $21 AND get the $2.75 raise…

So me at $18, my $2.75 will bring me to $20.75, then I’ll get increased to $21 and that’s it?

If so, I’m voting no

Be thankful you got a job

 

[MIX_MASTER_ICE]

So if understand correctly, starting rate is now $21 and all employees get a $2.75 raise. BUT if you are currently under $21 now, you don’t get bumped to $21 AND get the $2.75 raise…

So me at $18, my $2.75 will bring me to $20.75, then I’ll get increased to $21 and that’s it?

If so, I’m voting no

I'm pretty sure that's the scenario for you, as I laid it out in a previous post. The same scenario played out for some last contract when they bumped up the starting wage for new hires. If you fell below that amount as an existing PT'er, even after the annual raise, you automatically moved up to the starting wage of the new contract. IMO, that blows HARD if that is how it's being played again.

 

[Bigbass3]

I wonder what increase part time air drivers fall under.

We are probably screwed !!! I have been for almost a year now !!! And it wasn't ecause of Management either !!! 

 

[HarryWarden]

Be thankful you got a job

I am trust me

Just kind of annoying how it’s worked. I started at $8.50 an hour in 2010. Worked through the years to $10 an hour, then they raised starting wage to $10 when I got it. Worked more years up to $15, walk in one day and they announce starting wage now $15. Now the same thing is happening at $21.

It’s just a downer because originally I thought I was being bumped to $21 PLUS that $2.75 raise, but again it sounds like I’m just being matched with the new hires

 

[GodlikeRage]

That’s what it sounds like . Everyone has their opinion but I think that’s damn good for my dumb non educated ass to drive and throw cardboard

$41.50 + 2.75 = $44.25 then $7.50 by contract end. Driver Top Rate is $51.75?

 

[GodlikeRage]

I think total, because it states that drivers will be making $49, at contract end

It says "an average of $49"

 

[MIX_MASTER_ICE]

I am trust me

Just kind of annoying how it’s worked. I started at $8.50 an hour in 2010. Worked through the years to $10 an hour, then they raised starting wage to $10 when I got it. Worked more years up to $15, walk in one day and they announce starting wage now $15. Now the same thing is happening at $21.

It’s just a downer because originally I thought I was being bumped to $21 PLUS that $2.75 raise, but again it sounds like I’m just being matched with the new hires

That does stink out loud. Depending on how they break it down, you should get at least part of the $1.50/hour "longevity increase" in pay on top of the $21/hour. And that $1.50/hr max increase also stinks out loud. Wouldn't surprise me if they had it in there that you have to have 20 or 25 years seniority to get the full $1.50. I still can't believe SOB and the negotiating committee agreed to this part.

 

[MIX_MASTER_ICE]

It says "an average of $49"

$41.50+$7.50= $49. The $2.75 2023 raise is part of the $7.50 increase over the 5 year contract. That's very mediocre.

 

[Pullman Brown]

$41.50 + 2.75 = $44.25 then $7.50 by contract end. Driver Top Rate is $51.75?

No 2.75 is included with the $7.50.

 

[UnionStrong]

$41.50+$7.50= $49. The $2.75 2023 raise is part of the $7.50 increase over the 5 year contract. That's very mediocre.

18% over 5 years, not exceptional

 

[MIX_MASTER_ICE]

18%

They front-loaded the raise to make it more appealing. Like giving you a quality beer to start the night, then you have to drink Milwaukee's Best the rest of the night. Averaging $1.18 over the last 4 years of the contract is terrible, especially in today's high inflation economy.

 

[Pullman Brown]

They front-loaded the raise to make it more appealing. Like giving you a quality beer to start the night, then you have to drink Milwaukee's Best the rest of the night. Averaging $1.18 over the last 4 years of the contract is terrible, especially in today's high inflation economy.

They give you a good quality beer at the end.
Here is what I was told

23-2.75
24-1.00
25-.75
26-.75
27-2.25

 

[textat3]

A decent/normal/underwhelming contract. Pt workers get a nice bump. Not really sure what all the pomp and brow beating was about. Tell me something good like they haven’t announced a bonus yet, 401k match or extra vacation week at 30 YOS….SOB, who I honestly like, deserves an Oscar. My favorite part of all this was the Saturday July 1 press conference with 50 people on stage, 2 in the audience.

 

[MIX_MASTER_ICE]

They give you a good quality beer at the end.
Here is what I was told

23-2.75
24-1.00
25-.75
26-.75
27-2.25

.75 cents for years 3 and 4? Now you are just drinking some old guy's backwash. Wow!

 

[Just A UPS Guy]

21 is the new minimum starting pay . 2.75 is the raise . So everyone will get 23.75 right away plus however they’re calculating that extras 1.50

Maybe. There may be language describing a formula based on years in and current wage vs getting the $2.75 or $21 or more. I'd wait until it all comes out before telling people they're getting a $7+ raise next week.

 

[GodlikeRage]

$41.50+$7.50= $49. The $2.75 2023 raise is part of the $7.50 increase over the 5 year contract. That's very mediocre.

The why not just say $7.50? 2024/25/26/27/28 is 5 years, $1.50 a raise starting 2024 next year. $2.75 in 2023. If top rate is set at $49 exactly, why not say so? Saying average implies a higher rate.