Terminated for fraudulent documentation

[UpstateNYUPSer(Ret)]

They can call it falsifying, which is considered lying, which is fireable. It seems like they are shooting themselves in the foot, though. Based on what you wrote there is no way that a panel would uphold that, which means you get your job back with back pay. Sounds like you have a few grievances you can file too. I wouldn't worry about being harassed when you get back to work, because it will be really easy to establish retaliation. Just cool your heels, wait for and show up to your panel, and then get back to being more excellent every day.

Excellent? He has a long way to go just to attain mediocrity.

 

[UpstateNYUPSer(Ret)]

So to simplify things was it a missed pickup he got fired for?

Yes.

He was taken out of service for an unreported accident and ultimately terminated for missing what appears to be a bulk pickup stop.

 

[Indecisi0n]

So to simplify things was it a missed pickup he got fired for?

Yes. I never understood how dumb drivers are. If your on a regular route first off you shouldn't even need the DIAD to know what your pickups are. If one is missing I'm going there anyway to make sure it wasn't a mistake. I use unscheduled (I know some center don't ) in these situations.

 

[Mustacheyouaquestion]

I'm still wondering what a metro is??

 

[UpstateNYUPSer(Ret)]

I'm still wondering what a metro is??

Pickups.

 

[Wally]

What’s a metro

I'm still wondering what a metro is??

A little car from the 90's?

 

[oldngray]

A little car from the 90's?

Rebranded Suzuki.

Only a @Turdferguson would drive one.

 

[Brownslave688]

He just came back from a "vacation " for an accident, and now this?
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Darker than @RonBurgandy?????????? after he gets out of the tanning bed.

 

[Oceanview]

Why were you out for 2 weeks? Did you get back pay for the 2 weeks you were out?

I haven't filed a grievance for those days i was going to wait 20 days which would have been the 16th of this month

 

[Oceanview]

Everybody makes bad decisions at some point.

This doofus was a bad decision.

Well I typically finish my shifts .6 hrs under. Last week was the first time since I was out in my own did I need any help.

 

[Brownslave688]

I haven't filed a grievance for those days i was going to wait 20 days which would have been the 16th of this month

What? Wait 20 days. You're not too bright are you

 

[Oceanview]

My union steward was the one who told me to wait to file. He said they still had til the 16th to charge me with the accident. So he suggested I wait til the 20th day to file. Was that a bad decision?

 

[Oceanview]

Why were you out for 2 weeks? Did you get back pay for the 2 weeks you were out?

I was out 2 weeks pending an investigation.

 

[Oceanview]

It sounds to me like they believe you probably are guilty of the accident but can't pin it on you for whatever reason.

They then intentionally over dispatched you to get your attention, but instead of calling for help since you were buried, you got sloppy and now see the result of trying to accomplish the nearly impossible. It's a rookie mistake.

At panel (discuss this with your BA extensively prior to that) you're best bet is to be very apologetic and explain your confusion due to the heavy day and your inexperience. JMHO. I can buy your story, if in fact the accident charge was bogus and you've been honest with them on it. If, on the other hand you're in the habit of making things up as you go, they'll eat you alive at panel. Count on mgmt to bring the accident and anything you may have left out here that is a negative in your personnel file to your hearing and using it to paint you as a bad guy.

I hope you are being up front here and will be there.

Good luck.

Well the accident and this missed pick up are to the best of my knowledge the only mistakes I've made. I mean I've missed a call tag once before but that's just about it. Ijs don't I need to be held to The same standard as everyone else? I'm sure @ one point we have all missed a pick up destination.. I know this for a fact.

I'd just like to add that this was not a bulk pick up stop. I came to find out the stop I missed had 2 packages. But I guess it makes it worse because I missed them on a Friday.

 

[DRporch]

no matter how long it takes you need to focus on all things but the stop count. they will send help if its required. no need to rush through a day. its a by the hour paid job and you get help when behind. its normal every driver gets help at somepoint. and yes you should know all scheduled pickup stops by now and never lead with the excuse "i assumed they didnt pay the bill" just simply say you accidentally stop completed it.

 

[burrheadd]

Well the accident and this missed pick up are to the best of my knowledge the only mistakes I've made. I mean I've missed a call tag once before but that's just about it. Ijs don't I need to be held to The same standard as everyone else? I'm sure @ one point we have all missed a pick up destination.. I know this for a fact.

I'd just like to add that this was not a bulk pick up stop. I came to find out the stop I missed had 2 packages. But I guess it makes it worse because I missed them on a Friday.

Don’t make excuses

They want to see you own it

 

[Oceanview]

no matter how long it takes you need to focus on all things but the stop count. they will send help if its required. no need to rush through a day. its a by the hour paid job and you get help when behind. its normal every driver gets help at somepoint. and yes you should know all scheduled pickup stops by now and never lead with the excuse "i assumed they didnt pay the bill" just simply say you accidentally stop completed it.

Well on here I was just sharing my thoughts of what I assumed. But I did accidentally stop completed it.

 

[Oceanview]

Don’t make excuses

They want to see you own it

I'm not trying to make excuses I'm ijs everyone missed a pick up b4

 

[burrheadd]

I'm not trying to make excuses I'm ijs everyone missed a pick up b4

Really doesent matter what “everyone” else does

Right now they are looking at you

The everyone else has done it defense won’t go very far

 

[oldngray]

A missed pick up is bad but it depends on circumstances. Not all shippers are equal and it depends on your work history. Very bad if you are still trying to qualify.