Terminated for fraudulent documentation

Oceanview

Well-Known Member
Find it funny how clueless you are as to what is going on, and why you are in the trouble that you are in

Lol trouble?? I refuse to be intimidated by management. If I was doing the job wrong they should have taken the proper procedure in Discipline as in speaking to me or giving me a warning letter. To just fire me is not the proper procedure. This was absolutely retaliation because they couldn't pin an accident on me. But when i return to work I will be Carrying empty grievances in my front pocket
 

Turdferguson

Just a turd
Lol trouble?? I refuse to be intimidated by management. If I was doing the job wrong they should have taken the proper procedure in Discipline as in speaking to me or giving me a warning letter. To just fire me is not the proper procedure. This was absolutely retaliation because they couldn't pin an accident on me. But when i return to work I will be Carrying empty grievances in my front pocket

Falsified records is a cardinal offense.
No talking, no written, but termination. You don't have a leg to stand on as far as that goes Perry Mason
 

dookie stain

Cornfed whiteboy
We had a guy here deliver thousands of dollars of jewelry to a jewelry store left it on the counter and signed the board himself...all on camera...he was suspended for a day...they need drivers so bad right now you could get away with murder
 

Box Ox

Well-Known Member
Falsified records is a cardinal offense.
No talking, no written, but termination. You don't have a leg to stand on as far as that goes Perry Mason

Yeah. Not a "You've been a bad boy. Now here's your warning letter" kinda thing.


We had a guy here deliver thousands of dollars of jewelry to a jewelry store left it on the counter and signed the board himself...all on camera...he was suspended for a day

Management discretion? My center manager would have :censored2: a brick and say "Good luck at panel".
 
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DRporch

Well-Known Member
here at my center you can throw packages unscanned on belt and nothing happens. future 52 stops and nothing happens. literally throw packages in any order nothing happens. not write on a single box nothing happens. call in 5min before start nothing happens. the list goes on and on and on... needless to say im transfering in 16 more days... plus i almost got robbed friday.. and thats not the only time. havent even hit a year..
 

burrheadd

KING Of GIFS
Lol trouble?? I refuse to be intimidated by management. If I was doing the job wrong they should have taken the proper procedure in Discipline as in speaking to me or giving me a warning letter. To just fire me is not the proper procedure. This was absolutely retaliation because they couldn't pin an accident on me. But when i return to work I will be Carrying empty grievances in my front pocket

Hold up Chief you’ve been there 30 days

Lemme know how it works out
 

MzTeaze

Well-Known Member
Lol trouble?? I refuse to be intimidated by management. If I was doing the job wrong they should have taken the proper procedure in Discipline as in speaking to me or giving me a warning letter. To just fire me is not the proper procedure. This was absolutely retaliation because they couldn't pin an accident on me. But when i return to work I will be Carrying empty grievances in my front pocket

And there we have it. One thing UPS seems to be really big on are folks that are WILLING to admit mistakes and show a modicum of contrition. With every post, it's clear that's NOT your mind set. Approaching your panel hearing with a them vs me attitude seems like a risky plan.

Hope you have a plan B in place.
 
And there we have it. One thing UPS seems to be really big on are folks that are WILLING to admit mistakes and show a modicum of contrition. With every post, it's clear that's NOT your mind set. Approaching your panel hearing with a them vs me attitude seems like a risky plan.

Hope you have a plan B in place.
I've seen a few people come back, who I really didn't think they would be back.
 

john chesney

Well-Known Member
So I was recently fired for fraudulent documentation. I just recently gained seniority. I would say I have about 60 work days in. So I'm still a rookie and never had any disciplinary action prior to this incident for missing a pick up. I was how ever suspended for 2 weeks pending a t1 accident claiming that I hit a car and left a fake name and number. The owner of the Vehicle came in claiming that I struck his car 11 days later. It just so happens that My truck schematics and GPS on my diad was down that day and only that day. I found that extremely difficult to believe. After my review I was told I was not to get back on my package truck. So as I was getting ready to leave the center a supervisor stops me and says hey where are you going?? I told him I was just told that I'm still suspended and that I can't drive. I come to find out that the supervisors had a meeting at 7am with the Hub manager and that it was agreed that I would be returning to my package truck. So what happened between 7am and 9am to where the center manager decided he was no longer going to let me drive that day?? So instead of me driving that day they had a supervisor drive and me make the deliveries. The following day Im back on my route "by myself" I was overloaded with packages and stops 196 stops 435 packages. My first day back on my own after 2.5 half weeks of not being in routine. I was so far behind I was told to start my metro .5hrs later. Well before completing my first metro I entered how many packages I picked up. My next pick up is about half a mile away. But during my first pick up, I must have mistakenly hit enter on the diad for my 2nd pick up. So with my 2nd metro not on my board i went on to continue to my 3rd pick up with out realizing that I had entered 0 for my second stop. This is what I was told I was fired for.

Now yesterday and today I was told that I did not have a route assignment. I was told I could go drive for another center today. About an hour away from my current center. I called my union steward to find out if he was aware of any less seniority drivers who had a route assignment the day before and today. It turns out 7 drivers the day b4 and 8 drivers today had route assignments who held less seniority than me. So I get a phone call to come in that they now have a route for me. I come in to see a note on my diad to see the Hub manager and to bring a steward. I'm asked about my pick up and i told him I don't recall stopping there. He ask me why I didn't feel the need to stop there. I told him I didn't realize I entered 0 for my 2nd metro. And when I returned to my truck before I left my 1st metro stop I looked on my board and just seen my next 3-4 metro stops and figured that my 2nd metro hadn't paid there bill so there pick ups were temporarily suspended. I'm new I didn't realize how big of a mistake I had just made. But I can't believe this is a fireable offense. I mean I feel like this is a bit harsh. I'm in awed at the fact that I'm a rookie who made a rookie mistake and I was terminated for it. I'm just curious is this a typically how ups operates?? What are my chances of getting my job back? Also when I have my hearing what are the chances that I will get back pay?

Also as a side note I found out that they had no driver to take my truck out. So my truck sat there with all the packages on it not one delivered. I was told from a friend in the office that a lady had to call each customer to let them know they would not be getting their packages today due to they had no driver..

Was that a bad move on the Hub manager? For firing me for such a petty reason? And then having my truck sit there with out any of my packages to be delivered?? If I get my job back I feel like there will be futher retaliation because I'm sure the hub manager will have to answer to somebody as in why my truck sat there with out any customer packages being delivered..

Keep in mind their are 3 sides to every store my side their side and the truth. I did my best to explain my side. If I could get any input positive or negative i would sincerely appreciate it.

#ConfusedTeamster
First let me welcome you to being a driver at Ups this treatment will only last for your whole career.
They are breaking you in as to how things are going to be. You will get your job back but back pay is not going to happen.
Now give it about 30 years and you’ll understand why almost all of us hate this company
 
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