The 2024 Presidential Race Thread

Next Day Err

Well-Known Member
Not just some.
To the majority of Americans.
I'd wager that close to 100% of men in either political party would move heaven and Earth to get their wives to a doctor if she had pregnancy complications in even the 9th month. These men wouldn't think twice if the doctor said "your wife needs to terminate the pregnancy so we can save her health and life, I'm sorry."

Is this radical?
 

Pullman Brown

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I'd wager that close to 100% of men in either political party would move heaven and Earth to get their wives to a doctor if she had pregnancy complications in even the 9th month. These men wouldn't think twice if the doctor said "your wife needs to terminate the pregnancy so we can save her health and life, I'm sorry."

Is this radical?
Again this is the fallacy of exception. 99 percent of abortions have nothing to do with this.
 

Next Day Err

Well-Known Member
Again this is the fallacy of exception. 99 percent of abortions have nothing to do with this.
Abortions in the ninth month of pregnancy are extremely rare. According to data from organizations like the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) and the Guttmacher Institute, abortions after 24 weeks, when the fetus is considered viable, account for less than 1% of all abortions in the United States. Abortions in the ninth month (around 36-40 weeks) are even rarer and are typically performed under extraordinary circumstances.
 

Fred's Myth

Nonhyphenated American
Abortions in the ninth month of pregnancy are extremely rare. According to data from organizations like the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) and the Guttmacher Institute, abortions after 24 weeks, when the fetus is considered viable, account for less than 1% of all abortions in the United States. Abortions in the ninth month (around 36-40 weeks) are even rarer and are typically performed under extraordinary circumstances.
Yet you defend protecting a woman's 'right' to that procedure!

Do you have any idea how many times a doctor has been wrong in assessing the danger to the woman in this situation?
 

Pullman Brown

Well-Known Member
Abortions in the ninth month of pregnancy are extremely rare. According to data from organizations like the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) and the Guttmacher Institute, abortions after 24 weeks, when the fetus is considered viable, account for less than 1% of all abortions in the United States. Abortions in the ninth month (around 36-40 weeks) are even rarer and are typically performed under extraordinary circumstances.
When women and child’s lives are both at risk is very rare. God fearing people welcome death. For them death is a reward not something to shrink back from! Every society that is and has celebrated the murder of children is no more! Time is ticking. Amend your ways! 2900 a day!
 

Fred's Myth

Nonhyphenated American
Do you? Tell us, wise one, how many times doctors have been wrong about the necessity of an abortion for the life and health of the mother.

Doctors make a wrong diagnosis between 10–20% of the time.




But I guess that is acceptable collateral damage for you when you don't respect the value of life.
 

Next Day Err

Well-Known Member
Doctors make a wrong diagnosis between 10–20% of the time.




But I guess that is acceptable collateral damage for you when you don't respect the value of life.
If doctors make the wrong decision 20% of the time that leads to an abortion, it stands to reason that they make the wrong decision 20% of the time that doesn’t lead to abortion that further leads to an adverse health outcome for the woman.

Logic.
 

Next Day Err

Well-Known Member
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Your religious beliefs about abortion are irrelevant.
 

Doublestandards

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Brutally murdering innocent babies is a "trade off".

Evil.
You have still yet to answer when are the rare times you would defend killing an innocent baby.

You’ve skirted around the question and dodged it half a dozen times, even quoting it and leaving out that part

So, when are the rare times where you said it would be acceptable to kill an innocent baby?
 

Doublestandards

Well-Known Member
Nope.

Trump and Vance have talked about 15 week restriction. That is in line with the majority of Americans.

Harris and Walz want no restriction at all, which is a radical position that most Americans oppose.

Facts matter.
But you said a fetus is always a baby. Suddenly it’s ok to kill a baby up until 15 weeks but after that it’s wrong?


Also what happened to calling us out and ridiculing for using the term abortion instead of “killing a baby”.

I guess it’s ok when trump and Republicans say abortion, but not the left

The hypocrisy and bias is insane
 

DriveInDriveOut

Inordinately Right
But you said a fetus is always a baby.
A fetus is by definition a baby.
Suddenly it’s ok to kill a baby up until 15 weeks
I did not say that, you have a habit of lying.
Also what happened to calling us out and ridiculing for using the term abortion instead of “killing a baby”.

I guess it’s ok when trump and Republicans say abortion, but not the left
I never ridiculed anyone for using the term abortion.
I ridiculed you people for refusing to admit that abortion is killing a baby.
 

Doublestandards

Well-Known Member
A fetus is by definition a baby.

I did not say that, you have a habit of lying.

I never ridiculed anyone for using the term abortion.
I ridiculed you people for refusing to admit that abortion is killing a baby.
You were asked, is it ever acceptable to kill a living baby, and you said “rarely”. What are the rare situations where you defend killing a baby?
 

PT Car Washer

Well-Known Member
But you said a fetus is always a baby. Suddenly it’s ok to kill a baby up until 15 weeks but after that it’s wrong?


Also what happened to calling us out and ridiculing for using the term abortion instead of “killing a baby”.

I guess it’s ok when trump and Republicans say abortion, but not the left

The hypocrisy and bias is insane
trump wants to kill babies up to 15 months. Do you approve?
 
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