PS, he was here too for a while (grin)
Does anyone remember old “Scb” from T-net.. he was a real character ?
The future of Brown Cafe
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rod
Retired 23 years
Most of them are already in trouble. A 2 or 3 week strike wouldn’t affect retired people either way.
rod
Retired 23 years
Another Yes vote. You guys are going to take it in the shorts this next contract. The company is laughing at you- they have already won.
zubenelgenubi
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UpstateNYUPSer(Ret)
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One has nothing to do with the other.
zubenelgenubi
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Uh-huh. You know how pensions work, right?
UpstateNYUPSer(Ret)
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The bailout will have zero effect on contract negotiations for current employees who had yet to see their pensions cut.
zubenelgenubi
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Ok. So you don't understand. With failing pensions, the Teamsters were in a weak position coming in to negotiations. If the pensions fail, Teamsters will lose members, which would shrink the union in size and power. UPS is probably the one company in a position to keep the pensions afloat. The unspoken understanding being that the union doesn't fight the company too hard on anything they want, and UPS doesn't fight pension issues. With the pensions being stabilized by the bailouts, that weakness is now gone, putting the Teamsters back on equal footing with UPS. Add to that the issues with turnover, and we are in a good position to negotiate with strength.
What'dyabringmetoday???
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Can't believe his hands didn't hurt from the long winded posts...
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rod
Retired 23 years
Just about EVERYONE I know is retired. I would venture to say if the Pension dried up we all would survive. Its called GOOD retirement financial planning. I've discussed it with my financial adviser and he says we would be just fine without the pension check.
It will be fine
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rod
Retired 23 years
Would I miss it personally---yes. Could I live like I do now without it yes.
As usual you're very wrong again.
All about left UPS with lots of free cash but since you not work here anymore your opinion means nothing to anyone else on here. So please set me straight the retired people's not post on her anymore?
Integrity
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You just lost everyone's respect right here
Integrity
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I value everyone's opinion even if I disagree with it.
I believe everyone is entitled to an opinion.
Do you think somebody has been on there for decades and berated every retired person tell myself post office then they magically leave and come back and act like they can post again?
I really want to hear your answer on this one
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