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Cementups

Box Monkey
I truly respect you for starting on preload. I think everyone should.

But- you are only proving my point. Back when there were 90 stops per car and everything was on a shelf things were different. We don’t use the chain anymore and the weight limit is 150lbs. No offense but it seems like you are not up to speed on what preload is like now, not to mention what it was like during the Covid nonsense. That was even more bonkers!

But we loaded TV's that were 150lbs that are now a lot smaller and weigh 1/3 of the weight. Everything is smaller and lighter. SPC may have gone up but that's only beacuse you have so many more neighborhoods. MY last route in package I could knock off 30 stops in one neighborhood. In 1996 you would maybe deliver 2 stops in a neighborhood. Average package weighs 10-15 lbs. Most lighter and a few much heavier. I've had routes where all you delivered was Lands End and such for 200 stops but then routes with trucking companies and a majority of the route was 50+ lbs and 60 stops. It's all a give and take and that really hasn't changed. The only thing that's changed is the interenet and consumer buying. Everything is literally at your fingertips when you can order a new phone mount on Amazon as your driving down the road and you broke the last one. Speed of commerce is crazy now.
 

PreTrippin’

Stinkin Ginzo
But we loaded TV's that were 150lbs that are now a lot smaller and weigh 1/3 of the weight. Everything is smaller and lighter. SPC may have gone up but that's only beacuse you have so many more neighborhoods. MY last route in package I could knock off 30 stops in one neighborhood. In 1996 you would maybe deliver 2 stops in a neighborhood. Average package weighs 10-15 lbs. Most lighter and a few much heavier. I've had routes where all you delivered was Lands End and such for 200 stops but then routes with trucking companies and a majority of the route was 50+ lbs and 60 stops. It's all a give and take and that really hasn't changed. The only thing that's changed is the interenet and consumer buying. Everything is literally at your fingertips when you can order a new phone mount on Amazon as your driving down the road and you broke the last one. Speed of commerce is crazy now.
Well said brother. I had a TV like that, took 3 men to move that monstrosity lol
 

PT Car Washer

Well-Known Member
But we loaded TV's that were 150lbs that are now a lot smaller and weigh 1/3 of the weight. Everything is smaller and lighter. SPC may have gone up but that's only beacuse you have so many more neighborhoods. MY last route in package I could knock off 30 stops in one neighborhood. In 1996 you would maybe deliver 2 stops in a neighborhood. Average package weighs 10-15 lbs. Most lighter and a few much heavier. I've had routes where all you delivered was Lands End and such for 200 stops but then routes with trucking companies and a majority of the route was 50+ lbs and 60 stops. It's all a give and take and that really hasn't changed. The only thing that's changed is the interenet and consumer buying. Everything is literally at your fingertips when you can order a new phone mount on Amazon as your driving down the road and you broke the last one. Speed of commerce is crazy now.
I don't think I ever loaded a 150 lb TV.
 

badpal

Well-Known Member
I think I got my first cell phone in like 2003. I honestly don’t remember how the hell we got by before that. Using customers, phones and pay phones which don’t exist anymore.
Yeah, they would call one your pickups and have them leave note on the ole pickup book to call the center.
 

Coldworld

Well-Known Member
Yeah, they would call one your pickups and have them leave note on the ole pickup book to call the center.
Remember when some of the old timers had phone books in their trucks to look up addresses and people ?? Back when you could get the package off and not have to bring it back to the clerks.
 

badpal

Well-Known Member
Called UPS collect. Take that youngins…. Also faxed in diad info with ☎️ tone
Another real pain. would get ripped for not doing it soon enough after a nda delivery. And seems like a time when we still on paper, was a number we called to give tracking number to a real person. Standing at a freezing pay phone doing that kinda stuff
 

badpal

Well-Known Member
Remember when some of the old timers had phone books in their trucks to look up addresses and people ?? Back when you could get the package off and not have to bring it back to the clerks.
And the old hand written card file boxes with address directions? seen drivers come to blows accusing each other of taking or losing them.
 

Coldworld

Well-Known Member
the national average is 2% to plan, when i was a planner we were at 3% so i dunno

ultimately you can't completely predict customer behavior nor can you completely predict Piece Per Stop
So if you were off by 3% of plan and you average 100k trucks per day that means you should have put in 3,000 more routes across the country. IMO when I was in pkg IE was almost always overloading...very rarely an underload. Sounds like the company needs more runs put in than cut. Hardly ever seen them put in extra cars the last hour of preload but can't tell you how many times they could bust out 3 or 4 cars the last 30 minutes of preload. Would always cause more problems than if they just left them in...someone always needed help with p/u or deliveries.
 
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