The Russians Are Coming, The Russians Are Coming!

newfie

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Years and years of investigations, multiple committee hearings, over $100M spent, and no charges against Hillary.

Now Trump and the R’s are in charge of everything, and still the Justice Department hasn’t moved forward to nail her on all the ‘crimes and coverups of crimes’.

Curious, I wonder why?

talking point number 5 on the DNC talking points summary.

any original thoughts much?
 

BrownArmy

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talking point number 5 on the DNC talking points summary.

any original thoughts much?

Just facts, I don’t know much about the DNC, they seems like the Keystone Cops.

Trump was gonna ‘Lock Her Up!’...

What’s the holdup?

I could care less about HRC, I certainly care less than you guys seem to.

HRC is shady as hell, but if the Justice Department had something on her that was legit, what are they waiting for?
 

newfie

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Just facts, I don’t know much about the DNC, they seems like the Keystone Cops.

Trump was gonna ‘Lock Her Up!’...

What’s the holdup?

I could care less about HRC, I certainly care less than you guys seem to.

HRC is shady as hell, but if the Justice Department had something on her that was legit, what are they waiting for?

I think he's waiting on some fresh DNC talking points. I hope they pay you by the word
 

vantexan

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Years and years of investigations, multiple committee hearings, over $100M spent, and no charges against Hillary.

Now Trump and the R’s are in charge of everything, and still the Justice Department hasn’t moved forward to nail her on all the ‘crimes and coverups of crimes’.

Curious, I wonder why?
No investigation on her putting a server in a basement to conduct government business on. Covered for by FBI. Under subpoena she deleted 33,000 emails and then used a program that "acid washed" the server. Had her aides smash all of their blackberries and work related cellphones. Emails that were turned over, as well as emails recovered off the laptop of Anthony Weiner, her top aide's husband, included top secret and other classified material. Under U.S. law she should be charged with violating national security law. Recent revelation is that a foreign power, not Russia, hacked her server. That's from IG report, not Republicans. And of course we may never know what the deleted emails contained, but judging by all the huge speaking fees she and Bill received, as well as the millions pumped into their foundation, which they used for private jet travel and luxury accommodations and fine dining, it's a pretty good estimate that the emails contained deals made to enrich themselves, selling access. But Dems don't care, it's if we find just the slightest iota of corruption in the Trump camp we're going to crucify Trump. That's all that matters, not that possibly the most crooked politician in American presidential election history was a heartbeat away from becoming the leader of the free world.
 

Sportello

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No investigation on her putting a server in a basement to conduct government business on. Covered for by FBI. Under subpoena she deleted 33,000 emails and then used a program that "acid washed" the server. Had her aides smash all of their blackberries and work related cellphones. Emails that were turned over, as well as emails recovered off the laptop of Anthony Weiner, her top aide's husband, included top secret and other classified material. Under U.S. law she should be charged with violating national security law. Recent revelation is that a foreign power, not Russia, hacked her server. That's from IG report, not Republicans. And of course we may never know what the deleted emails contained, but judging by all the huge speaking fees she and Bill received, as well as the millions pumped into their foundation, which they used for private jet travel and luxury accommodations and fine dining, it's a pretty good estimate that the emails contained deals made to enrich themselves, selling access. But Dems don't care, it's if we find just the slightest iota of corruption in the Trump camp we're going to crucify Trump. That's all that matters, not that possibly the most crooked politician in American presidential election history was a heartbeat away from becoming the leader of the free world.
Lots of lies in this short rant.
 

vantexan

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So basically, like Hannity but flipped on the issues
Hannity is hated for exposing the truth about the other side. Republicans aren't perfect, but they aren't as rotten to the core as the Democrat Party. And we're starting to see fissures amongst the Democrats because, as misguided as they are, the socialists amongst them are disillusioned with the money grubbers their party has become. Hannity makes a good living pointing out the crookedness and it's not accurate, not by along shot, to say he's the flip side of the talking heads on MSNBC and CNN.
 

BrownArmy

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No investigation on her putting a server in a basement to conduct government business on. Covered for by FBI. Under subpoena she deleted 33,000 emails and then used a program that "acid washed" the server. Had her aides smash all of their blackberries and work related cellphones. Emails that were turned over, as well as emails recovered off the laptop of Anthony Weiner, her top aide's husband, included top secret and other classified material. Under U.S. law she should be charged with violating national security law. Recent revelation is that a foreign power, not Russia, hacked her server. That's from IG report, not Republicans. And of course we may never know what the deleted emails contained, but judging by all the huge speaking fees she and Bill received, as well as the millions pumped into their foundation, which they used for private jet travel and luxury accommodations and fine dining, it's a pretty good estimate that the emails contained deals made to enrich themselves, selling access. But Dems don't care, it's if we find just the slightest iota of corruption in the Trump camp we're going to crucify Trump. That's all that matters, not that possibly the most crooked politician in American presidential election history was a heartbeat away from becoming the leader of the free world.

OK, against reason let’s assume all that is true:

What’s the holdup?

Trump and R’s control the ‘judge, jury, and executioner’ (not really, but hopefully you get my point).

Even ‘Howdy-Doody’ Gowdy isn’t talking about HRC anymore.

If half of what you allege is true, HRC should be in jail at this point, or halfway through trial.

Ask yourself why that isn’t so.

Is it the ‘fake news’?

Is it Mueller?

Is it the weather?

Seriously, what’s the holdup?
 

newfie

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OK, against reason let’s assume all that is true:

What’s the holdup?

Trump and R’s control the ‘judge, jury, and executioner’ (not really, but hopefully you get my point).

Even ‘Howdy-Doody’ Gowdy isn’t talking about HRC anymore.

If half of what you allege is true, HRC should be in jail at this point, or halfway through trial.

Ask yourself why that isn’t so.

Is it the ‘fake news’?

Is it Mueller?

Is it the weather?

Seriously, what’s the holdup?

Tired out DNC talking points
 

BrownArmy

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Tired out DNC talking points

You’re fake news.

What’s the holdup?

You’d think that after the millions spent and all the previous investigations there would be a solid base for going after HRC.

Why hasn’t that happened?

What’s the holdup?

Presumably the Justice Department can walk and chew gum at the same time, I’m sure they could handle the slam-dunk case against HRC at the same time, except they haven’t.

Why is that?
 

newfie

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You’re fake news.

What’s the holdup?

You’d think that after the millions spent and all the previous investigations there would be a solid base for going after HRC.

Why hasn’t that happened?

What’s the holdup?

Presumably the Justice Department can walk and chew gum at the same time, I’m sure they could handle the slam-dunk case against HRC at the same time, except they haven’t.

Why is that?

We had this debate here before, sorry you missed the boat.
 

BrownArmy

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We had this debate here before, sorry you missed the boat.

So you can’t answer the question.

That’s fine.

Here’s the answer:

Trump and Sessions etc. haven’t gone after HRC because they have nothing to nail her on.

I’m not saying she’s innocent, I’m saying after multiple investigations and millions of taxpayer dollars spent, they got nothing.

Either she’s a criminal mastermind or everyone who’s investigated her is a maroon, OR she’s as shady as the rest of them but your nonsense is just that, overblown Republican conspiracy BS.

Just forget about her, the rest of us have!
 

vantexan

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So you can’t answer the question.

That’s fine.

Here’s the answer:

Trump and Sessions etc. haven’t gone after HRC because they have nothing to nail her on.

I’m not saying she’s innocent, I’m saying after multiple investigations and millions of taxpayer dollars spent, they got nothing.

Either she’s a criminal mastermind or everyone who’s investigated her is a maroon, OR she’s as shady as the rest of them but your nonsense is just that, overblown Republican conspiracy BS.

Just forget about her, the rest of us have!
I think I know exactly what the holdup is. Bill and Hillary have been in or around Washington since '92. They, and the DNC, have dirt on everyone. There are too many Republicans who risk being exposed as well as the Democrats with lining their pockets at the public's expense. You can one off a Donna Brazil getting caught cheating and having to resign. She and others like her as well as congressmen who get caught screwing around have no one to blame but themselves. But lining your pockets is the city industry, and if someone like Clinton goes down for using her position to get rich you can bet she's going to take as many of them with her as possible. And has made that clear behind closed doors. So they trot out a guy like Comey to take the heat exonerating her. And we go through endless dog and pony shows also known as Congressional hearings with the intention of exhausting the public's interest. In the end it's the Swamp protecting it's own. Hope I'm wrong.
 

BrownArmy

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I think I know exactly what the holdup is. Bill and Hillary have been in or around Washington since '92. They, and the DNC, have dirt on everyone. There are too many Republicans who risk being exposed as well as the Democrats with lining their pockets at the public's expense. You can one off a Donna Brazil getting caught cheating and having to resign. She and others like her as well as congressmen who get caught screwing around have no one to blame but themselves. But lining your pockets is the city industry, and if someone like Clinton goes down for using her position to get rich you can bet she's going to take as many of them with her as possible. And has made that clear behind closed doors. So they trot out a guy like Comey to take the heat exonerating her. And we go through endless dog and pony shows also known as Congressional hearings with the intention of exhausting the public's interest. In the end it's the Swamp protecting it's own. Hope I'm wrong.

That’s probably close to true, for whatever it’s worth.

How many of any of these politicians are completely above-board, and strictly working for the good of the Nation?

Not for nothing, but ask yourself why certain folks are so dead-set against Trump.

Random evidence goes a long way toward cementing people’s ‘already-held’ beliefs (confirmation bias).

Take a deep breath, can’t you see that the level of emotion and personal-connectedness to HRC that you and Newfie seem to exhibit is correlated to the same feelings on the ‘other side’ about Trump?

People gonna keep being people.

I suggest mandatory civics and media-literacy education in US schools, gawd folks are dumb!
 
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