The Russians Are Coming, The Russians Are Coming!

newfie

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By the time Hitler invaded Poland he had an industrial machine backing him plus alliances with Japan, Italy, and a number of other countries. It's despicable what Putin is doing, but the only thing backing him is nukes. And China turning a blind eye. I don't think he's even capable of attacking NATO. What we have to deal with is him and China carving up their neighbors while a feeble old man who's been bought off sits in the White House.

I'll put you down as very hopeful.
 

vantexan

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I watched all of that. Your friends are twisting what he was saying. His concern was our politicians are pushing for war with a nuclear power and he was asking why we would defend a country like Ukraine instead of trying to have better relations with Russia. Pointed out our politicians are saying we must protect the integrity of Ukraine's borders but aren't protecting the integrity of our own borders. The point being that our military/industrial complex is pushing us into another war to make profits. Only this time it's against a country that could destroy us.
 

PT Car Washer

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I watched all of that. Your friends are twisting what he was saying. His concern was our politicians are pushing for war with a nuclear power and he was asking why we would defend a country like Ukraine instead of trying to have better relations with Russia. Pointed out our politicians are saying we must protect the integrity of Ukraine's borders but aren't protecting the integrity of our own borders. The point being that our military/industrial complex is pushing us into another war to make profits. Only this time it's against a country that could destroy us.
Another one of Putin's puppets.
 

Babagounj

Strength through joy
Kadyrov boasted that Chechen units had so far suffered no losses and said Russian forces could easily take large Ukrainian cities including the capital, Kyiv, but their task was to avoid loss of life.
“The president [Putin] took the right decision and we will carry out his orders under any circumstances,” said Kadyrov.
Kadyrov has often described himself as Putin’s “foot soldier” and his words echoed those of the Russian leader who on Friday urged Ukrainians to rise up against their own government, which he said was made up of “neo-Nazis”.
Ukraine landed a significant blow on Russia Saturday after it killed a large group of bloodthirsty Chechen special forces dispatched to assassinate the country's president Volodymyr Zelensky.
The squadron - famed for their barbaric violence and human rights abuses - were obliterated after their convoy of 56 tanks was blown to smithereens by Ukrainian missile fire.
Among those wiped out was Chechen general Magomed Tushaev.
He was commander of the 141th motorized national guard brigade - Chechen head of state Ramzan Kadyrov's elite force.
 

newfie

Well-Known Member
Ukraine landed a significant blow on Russia Saturday after it killed a large group of bloodthirsty Chechen special forces dispatched to assassinate the country's president Volodymyr Zelensky.
The squadron - famed for their barbaric violence and human rights abuses - were obliterated after their convoy of 56 tanks was blown to smithereens by Ukrainian missile fire.
Among those wiped out was Chechen general Magomed Tushaev.
He was commander of the 141th motorized national guard brigade - Chechen head of state Ramzan Kadyrov's elite force.
wasn't that long ago the Chechens were trying to kill Russians
 

newfie

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With good reason
a big part of the problem here is that the Ukraine has been corrupt as a free nation
they have totally mismanaged their country
they have ignored and mistreated the pro russian sections of their country.

Had they fixed those issues they may very well have been part of NATO and not going through this hell.

that said its still incredibly wrong for a Russia to invade a nation unprovoked.
 

newfie

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If the Ukrainians are deep down Russians as some have suggested , then yes Chechens are still bent on killing Russians.
I found the youtube video on crimea interesting . the russians who are dictators in every way were able to not only enlist crimean support but buy their unwavering loyalty simply by showing a legitimate concern for addressing their needs.

so a dictatorship won over a country with democratic processes.
a governing body tried to actually do their job and won over support of the population
 
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