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El Correcto

god is dead
So why do some people get sovereignty and other don't? Donbass has never been recognized as separate. I'm asking why it shouldn't be.

I generally support self-determination and self-government for whoever wants it. Don't you?
No. I don’t support any of America’s enemies or future enemies. Why do you?
 

rickyb

Well-Known Member
NATO was involved because the sovereign nation of Ukraine determined by their own will that they would like to join NATO, Russia got involved to undermine that country’s democratic will to join NATO, because they were smart and did not trust the evil :censored2:ing empire Russia is under a dictator like Putin.

You’re just a Ricky who only wants to bash the west, I told your ass for years Russia was no good and now here we are.
I disagree but lets say ur right, if cuba wants to take russian weapons to be used against usa, should they be allowed?

Would u like america to be circled by a hostile military alliance?
 

rickyb

Well-Known Member
NATO was involved because the sovereign nation of Ukraine determined by their own will that they would like to join NATO, Russia got involved to undermine that country’s democratic will to join NATO, because they were smart and did not trust the evil :censored2:ing empire Russia is under a dictator like Putin.

You’re just a Ricky who only wants to bash the west, I told your ass for years Russia was no good and now here we are.
Putin and americam politicians both rotten, difference is usa got a bigger budget to b rotten than putin does
 

El Correcto

god is dead
I disagree but lets say ur right, if cuba wants to take russian weapons to be used against usa, should they be allowed?

Would u like america to be circled by a hostile military alliance?
Modern day Russia is undermining a democratic nation’s sovereignty, unprovoked while annexing it piece by piece, literally war criming civilians on mass shelling populated cities, Rickyb’s hot take is yeah but america didn’t want a dictatorship off the coast of Florida pointing soviet nukes at it’s city, america bad.
Shut the :censored2: up you know nothing :censored2:.
 

El Correcto

god is dead
NATO is no threat to Russia, NATO is purely defensive pacts, it defends democracies from RUSSIAN aggression. It didn’t form up to conquer Russia. You’re being stupid.
 

rickyb

Well-Known Member
Modern day Russia is undermining a democratic nation’s sovereignty, unprovoked while annexing it piece by piece, literally war criming civilians on mass shelling populated cities, Rickyb’s hot take is yeah but america didn’t want a dictatorship off the coast of Florida pointing soviet nukes at it’s city, america bad.
Shut the :censored2: up you know nothing :censored2:.
Nato tried expanding more and russia reacted illegally

Russia think nato is a threat and theyre right.

How would usa feel if canada accepted weapons from russia pointed at usa?
 

rickyb

Well-Known Member
NATO is no threat to Russia, NATO is purely defensive pacts, it defends democracies from RUSSIAN aggression. It didn’t form up to conquer Russia. You’re being stupid.
They could use same argument against usa by putting weapons in mexico, canada, or cuba for example

Doesnt make it right. not sure how that would b defensive anyways lol
 

El Correcto

god is dead
They could use same argument against usa by putting weapons in mexico, canada, or cuba for example

Doesnt make it right. not sure how that would b defensive anyways lol
I’m done explaining to you the difference between democracies choosing to join defensive pacts out of fear of a much stronger Russian military and Russia annexing parts of a democracy and war criming their citizens.
 

El Correcto

god is dead
Nato tried expanding more and russia reacted illegally

Russia think nato is a threat and theyre right.

How would usa feel if canada accepted weapons from russia pointed at usa?
Ukraine came to NATO not the other way around. NATO didn’t want the headache of making a defensive pact with a nation currently being taken over by Russia already.
 

rickyb

Well-Known Member
I’m done explaining to you the difference between democracies choosing to join defensive pacts out of fear of a much stronger Russian military and Russia annexing parts of a democracy and war criming their citizens.
Wen did russia annex and wen did the usa backed coup happen?
 

Babagounj

Strength through joy
This war in Ukraine will be Putin's downfall, win or lose.
He has overplayed his hand and others are aware of it.
Russia's ability going forward will be greatly limited.
Now that most of the whole world is against it.
 

rickyb

Well-Known Member
Ukraine came to NATO not the other way around. NATO didn’t want the headache of making a defensive pact with a nation currently being taken over by Russia already.
So lets say cuba comes to russia for weapons so cuba can point weapons at usa which threats usa security. is that reasonable or not lol?
 

rickyb

Well-Known Member
This war in Ukraine will be Putin's downfall, win or lose.
He has overplayed his hand and others are aware of it.
Russia's ability going forward will be greatly limited.
Now that most of the whole world is against it.
He did overplay his hand according to one source
 

rickyb

Well-Known Member
Ukraine came to NATO not the other way around. NATO didn’t want the headache of making a defensive pact with a nation currently being taken over by Russia already.
Russia tried starting joint security alliance with eu and nato, germany in favor. Usa refused.

Great going u verminoid squirtle!
 
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