THE TRUMP 2024 THREAD

Appvol

Well-Known Member
That was his job, to investigate and decide whether to recommend charges or not. He decided it wasn’t worth it

The federal government has an amazing prosecution rate. It’s around 99%. They don’t take cases unless they’re absolutely sure of what they have and the evidence is overwhelming

That’s why trump, a president, getting raided by the fbi and charged by the feds is such a huge deal
You have a serious case of TDS

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vantexan

Well-Known Member
Hur's office felt that the "evidence does not establish Mr. Biden's guilt beyond a reasonable doubt."

They also felt they couldn’t get a jury to convict him

The cases were also much different than trumps

You guys have to remember, not only did trump take more severe classified documents, he lied and stalled and obstructed Justice

His charges aren’t only for the documents


The Charges

  • 31 counts of Wilful Retention of National Defense Information — 18 USC 793(e)
  • Conspiracy to Obstruct Justice — 18 USC 1512(k)
  • Withholding a Document or Record — 18 USC 1512 (b)(2)(A), and abetting
  • Corrupting concealing a Document or Record — 18 USC 1512[c](1), and abetting
  • Concealing a Document in a Federal Investigation — 18 USC 1519, and abetting
  • Scheme to Conceal — 18 USC 1001(a)(1), and abetting
  • False Statements and Representations — 18 USC 1001(a)(2), and abetting

Bidens documents were pertaining to two things, the Afghanistan war and his personal notebooks containing personal notes and checklists

These are the documents trump had


  1. TS//NF//SPECIAL HANDLING] Document dated May 3, 2018, concerning White House intelligence briefing related to various foreign countries
  2. [TS//SI//NF//SPECIAL HANDLING] Document dated May 9, 2018, concerning White House intelligence briefing related to various foreign countries.
  3. [TS//SI//NF//FISA] Undated document concerning military capabilities of a foreign country and the United States, with handwritten annotation in black marker
  4. [TS//SPECIAL HANDLING] Document dated May 6, 2019, concerning White House intelligence briefing related to foreign countries, including military activities and planning of foreign countries.
  5. [TS//XX/XX//ORCON//NF] Document dated June 2020, concerning nuclear capabilities of a foreign country
  6. [TS//SPECIAL HANDLING] Document dated June 4, 2020, concerning White House intelligence briefing related to various foreign countries
  7. [S//NF] Document dated October 21, 2018, concerning communications with a leader of a foreign country.
  8. [S//REL FVEY]Document dated October 4, 2019, concerning military capabilities of a foreign country.
  9. [TS//XX/X//ORCON/NF/FISA] Undated document concerning military attacks by a foreign country
  10. [TS//TK//NF] Document dated November 2017, concerning military capabilities of a foreign country
  11. [S//REL FVEY]Undated document concerning military contingency planning of the United States
  12. [S//REL FVEY] Paged of undated document concerning projected regional military capabilities of a foreign country and the United States
  13. [TS//SI/TK//NF] Undated document concerning military capabilities of a foreign country and the United States
  14. [S//ORCON/NF] Document dated January 2020, concerning military options of a foreign country and potential effects on United States interests
  15. [S//ORCON/NF] Document dated February 2020 concerning policies in a foreign country
  16. [S//ORCON//NF] Document dated December 2019, concerning foreign country support of terrorist acts against United States interests
  17. [TS//X/TK/ORCON/IMCON/NF] Document dated January 2020 concerning military capabilities of a foreign country
  18. [S//NF] Document dated March 2020 concerning military operations against United States forces and others
  19. [S/FRD] Undated document concerning nuclear weaponry of the United States
  20. [[TS//XX/ORCON//NF] Undated document concerning timeline and details of attack in a foreign country
  21. [S//NF] Undated document concerning military capabilities of foreign countries
  22. [TS//X/RSEN/ORCON//NF] Document dated August 2019, concerning military activity of a foreign country
  23. [TS//SPECIAL HANDLING] Document dated August 30, 2019, concerning White House intelligence briefing related to various foreign countries, with handwritten annotation in black marker
  24. [[TS//HCS-P/SI//ORCON-USGOV/NF] Undated document concerning military activity of a foreign country
  25. [[TS//HCS-P/SI//ORCON-USGOV/NF] Document dated October 24, 2019, concerning military activity of foreign countries and the United States
  26. [[TS//X//ORCON//NF/FISA] Document dated November 7, 2019, concerning military activity of foreign countries and the United States
  27. [TS//SI/TK//NF] Document dated November 2019, concerning military activity of foreign countries
  28. [TS//SPECIAL HANDLING] Document dated October 18, 2019, concerning White House intelligence briefing related to various foreign countries
  29. [TS//X/SI/TK//ORCON/NF]Document dated October 18, 2019, concerning military capabilities of a foreign country
  30. [TS//X/ORCON/NF/FISA] Document dated October 15, 2019, concerning military activity in a foreign country
  31. [TS//SI/TK//NF] Document dated February 2017, concerning military activity of a foreign country


Again, why did he get a pass? He took classified documents from the SCIF. He had them accessible to others in multiple locations. He clearly mishandled classified material and many over the years have gone to prison for doing less. And why wasn't Hillary prosecuted?
 

HarryWarden

Well-Known Member
Again, why did he get a pass? He took classified documents from the SCIF. He had them accessible to others in multiple locations. He clearly mishandled classified material and many over the years have gone to prison for doing less. And why wasn't Hillary prosecuted?
And why wasn’t pence?

Because they cooperated and didn’t lie and didn’t obstruct Justice and the documents they had were different than the documents trump

Trump had over 350 documents and is getting charged for 33 of them

Im guessing he lied because he knows he really shouldn’t have those. But we’ll have to wait and see
 

Fred's Myth

Nonhyphenated American
That was his job, to investigate and decide whether to recommend charges or not. He decided it wasn’t worth it

The federal government has an amazing prosecution rate. It’s around 99%. They don’t take cases unless they’re absolutely sure of what they have and the evidence is overwhelming

That’s why trump, a president, getting raided by the fbi and charged by the feds is such a huge deal
But he didn't make recommendations, he made exculpatory, practically apologetic, statements on Biden.
 

vantexan

Well-Known Member
That was his job, to investigate and decide whether to recommend charges or not. He decided it wasn’t worth it

The federal government has an amazing prosecution rate. It’s around 99%. They don’t take cases unless they’re absolutely sure of what they have and the evidence is overwhelming

That’s why trump, a president, getting raided by the fbi and charged by the feds is such a huge deal
The Federal government passed on charging Trump concerning the accounting errors he's being tried for now. They were Federal misdemeanors. So why did the Manhattan prosecutor Bragg decide to pursue it, turning them into felonies, when Federal prosecutors have an amazing track record of not taking cases where the evidence isn't overwhelming?
 

vantexan

Well-Known Member
And why wasn’t pence?

Because they cooperated and didn’t lie and didn’t obstruct Justice and the documents they had were different than the documents trump

Trump had over 350 documents and is getting charged for 33 of them

Im guessing he lied because he knows he really shouldn’t have those. But we’ll have to wait and see
Pence got off for two reasons. They didn't want to draw any attention to what Biden did. And Pence was rewarded for not nullifying the election results.
 

HarryWarden

Well-Known Member
Pence got off for two reasons. They didn't want to draw any attention to what Biden did. And Pence was rewarded for not nullifying the election results.
Ok so you’re in deep conspiracy mode lol, that’s fine though at least you admit it, I respect that atleast. Well maybe you’re right, like I said that’s one of 2 options. Either huge conspiracy against trump or he’s guilty. Only time will tell I suppose
 

HarryWarden

Well-Known Member
He shouldn't get used to throwing around the term "human scum" if he wants to win a national election.
He said “happy Memorial Day” and then spent the rest of the time talking crap. His followers don’t care anymore

Like he said, he could shoot someone on 5th Avenue and he wouldn’t lose any supporters. He knows his base will look the other way or make exscuses for pretty much anything, it doesn’t matter

If Biden made a tweet like this republicans would be showing it constantly and saying it’s proof of his mental state
 
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DriveInDriveOut

Inordinately Right
Again, why did he get a pass? He took classified documents from the SCIF. He had them accessible to others in multiple locations. He clearly mishandled classified material and many over the years have gone to prison for doing less. And why wasn't Hillary prosecuted?
Because they cooperated
Yes criminals who admit to their crimes should get a free pass. Makes perfect sense.
 

Appvol

Well-Known Member
He said “happy Memorial Day” and then spent the rest of the time talking crap. His followers don’t care anymore

Like he said, he could shoot someone on 5th Avenue and he wouldn’t lose any supporters. He knows his base will look the other way or make exscuses for pretty much anything, it doesn’t matter

If Biden made a tweet like this republicans would be showing it constantly and saying it’s proof of his mental state
Biden is to busy making racist comments. There a reason he is going to start getting scripted questions from hand picked reports. They don’t want him going off script to the media.
 

Fred's Myth

Nonhyphenated American
He said “happy Memorial Day” and then spent the rest of the time talking crap. His followers don’t care anymore

Like he said, he could shoot someone on 5th Avenue and he wouldn’t lose any supporters. He knows his base will look the other way or make exscuses for pretty much anything, it doesn’t matter

If Biden made a tweet like this republicans would be showing it constantly and saying it’s proof of his mental state
Much like you’re doing?
 
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