THE TRUMP 2024 THREAD

[El Correcto]

Gays have the same civil rights as anyone else. What you want is everyone recognize you're gay and approve of it. Similar to the trans people wanting everyone to agree they are the gender they claim to be and to use the right pronouns.

That’s not true.

This doesn’t extend to lgbt people like it does religious people.

 

[El Correcto]

I don’t recall any gay or lesbian drivers asking for any special privileges. I do recall several. transgender asking for special permission. One of them felt their transition was covered under UPS policy and found out the hard way it was not..

How many have you seen claiming religious rights to their beards? Don’t lie.
Here it is at least 10.

Straight people and Christians have civil rights against discrimination in work place and more coverage under civil rights act than gays do.

It’s a ridiculous argument to claim gays get special treatment under law that isn’t afforded to everyone else, when factually they get less.

 

[Doublestandards]

Is that what I said? Clearly you have no kids and do not understand how any of this works. Perhaps you should stay in your lane.

So is it the child’s decision or the parents whether their child goes through with the pregnancy?

You said the parents and they are the guardian and that’s how it works, so you’re saying if the child wanted an abortion but the parents don’t, she shouldn’t be able to have one, right?

 

[vantexan]

That’s not true.
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This doesn’t extend to lgbt people like it does religious people.

Gays have the same civil rights as everyone else. Claiming you're another gender and wanting to use another gender's restroom isn't a civil right.

 

[Doublestandards]

Gays have the same civil rights as everyone else. Claiming you're another gender and wanting to use another gender's restroom isn't a civil right.

Even Trump let’s transgenders use the bathroom of the gender they identify with at mar a lago, you may not like it but you’re probably going to have to accept it

 

[vantexan]

So is it the child’s decision or the parents whether their child goes through with the pregnancy?

You said the parents and they are the guardian and that’s how it works, so you’re saying if the child wanted an abortion but the parents don’t, she shouldn’t be able to have one, right?

The reasoning is a teenage girl if pregnant can get an abortion without her parents finding out to avoid their anger for her behavior. Parents should never be prevented by outside forces from knowing about their child's situation. It's very likely that the behavior that resulted in the pregnancy will be repeated if there are no consequences.

 

[Thebrownblob]

So is it the child’s decision or the parents whether their child goes through with the pregnancy?

You said the parents and they are the guardian and that’s how it works, so you’re saying if the child wanted an abortion but the parents don’t, she shouldn’t be able to have one, right?

That is correct. I did not however say they should be able force her to have one.

Liberals like yourself want to put everything on parents, including if a child skips school or commit to crime or somehow managed to get a gun and shoot people, but you want the child to be able to decide if they can or cannot have kids? Can’t have it both ways, buddy. Either they are legal guardians until they’re 18 or they’re not.

Unless there’s a reason not to trust the family, such as abuse of some sort, the family working out with the child what should or shouldn’t happen is always better than a stranger or the state.

In your scenario, some pervert can get an adolescent pregnant and then take her to have an abortion without her parents ever even knowing

 

[Doublestandards]

In your scenario, some pervert can get an adolescent pregnant and then take her to have an abortion without her parents ever even knowing

and you would rather her have a baby with that pervert?

Maybe if a child isn’t old enough to decide whether they can have an abortion, they’re not old enough to have a child…

But anyways, going off of your logic, saying that a child needs a parents permission to have an abortion. What if the child was raped, and wants an abortion, but the parents still say no as their beliefs are against abortion no matter the circumstances. You still think that child should have no say in her body and be forced to carry through with the birth?

 

[vantexan]

Even Trump let’s transgenders use the bathroom of the gender they identify with at mar a lago, you may not like it but you’re probably going to have to accept it

The civil right is being able to use the restroom. It's not a civil right to use a restroom other than what your biological sex indicates. That's a special right. And I have repeatedly said gays have the same civil rights as everyone else. He says they don't but then focuses on trans people. No one is asking a gay man when he enters a mens restroom if he's gay. For some reason gays want to tell everyone they're gay then challenge anyone to do something about it. And what especially has conservatives upset is pushing this transgender thing to allow boys in girls locker rooms. Should a boy who is still intact get to go into the girls locker room showers and stand there naked with the girls? That's exactly what was happening with that guy who was on Penn's swim team. It makes a mockery of common decency and it endangers girls. A boy claiming to be a girl sexually assaulted a girl in Loudon County, VA. The school officials moved him to another school where he did the same. Two girls assaulted with the school board trying to cover it up and resulted in one of the girl's fathers being arrested for confronting the school board. The inmates are running the asylum.

 

[vantexan]

and you would rather her have a baby with that pervert?

Maybe if a child isn’t old enough to decide whether they can have an abortion, they’re not old enough to have a child…

But anyways, going off of your logic, saying that a child needs a parents permission to have an abortion. What if the child was raped, and wants an abortion, but the parents still say no as their beliefs are against abortion no matter the circumstances. You still think that child should have no say in her body and be forced to carry through with the birth?

Until the child is a legal adult the people legally responsible for her care and well being have a right to know what is going on. What if, what if, what if doesn't negate that.

 

[Doublestandards]

Until the child is a legal adult the people legally responsible for her care and well being have a right to know what is going on. What if, what if, what if doesn't negate that.

“What if” should be part of the situation though

Again, if a child is raped and becomes pregnant, and she wants to have an abortion, you think the parents should be able to force her to go through the pregnancy if they wish?

 

[vantexan]

“What if” should be part of the situation though

Again, if a child is raped and becomes pregnant, and she wants to have an abortion, you think the parents should be able to force her to go through the pregnancy if they wish?

That's a tough question but that doesn't mean the rights of millions of parents should be negated because of an extreme example. I don't believe in abortion but if my daughter was raped I would take her immediately to a doctor to terminate the pregnancy.

 

[Thebrownblob]

“What if” should be part of the situation though

Again, if a child is raped and becomes pregnant, and she wants to have an abortion, you think the parents should be able to force her to go through the pregnancy if they wish?

What if she was raped? That’s always the go to for liberals lol when we know damn well that’s about 1maybe 2% of abortions.

Again, in the vast majority of instances, parental involvement Is a far superior outcome than a stranger or lthe state

Maybe you had crappy parents and don’t know that but most parents love their kids and want the best for them even in difficult situations

 

[Doublestandards]

What if she was raped? That’s always the go to for liberals lol when we know damn well that’s about 1maybe 2% of abortions.

So what is your opinion for those 2% of cases?

Maybe you had crappy parents and don’t know that but most parents love their kids and want the best for them even in difficult situations

That’s real nice. Maybe I could say you’re a crappy parent if you feel your child wouldn’t feel comfortable enough to come to you in this difficult situation and you have to have them be forced to tell you

You don’t need to get so snappy and personal everytime a slightly non conservative opinion comes up to you

 

[Thebrownblob]

“What if” should be part of the situation though

Again, if a child is raped and becomes pregnant, and she wants to have an abortion, you think the parents should be able to force her to go through the pregnancy if they wish?

As a society and in most cases legally, we have made the decision that adolescence are not capable of making many choices on their own. That is why there is legal guardians to our responsible for those choices and for the minor.. There is a system in place for parents who do not take care of their kids.

 

[Thebrownblob]

So what is your opinion for those 2% of cases?

That’s real nice. Maybe I could say you’re a crappy parent if you feel your child wouldn’t feel comfortable enough to come to you in this difficult situation and you have to have them be forced to tell you

You don’t need to get so snappy and personal everytime a slightly non conservative opinion comes up to you

Nobody was snappy and I could care less about conservative opinions. I’m talking about common sense that you have very little of. I don’t know a lot of liberal parents who would agree with anything you’re saying lol. You really think liberal parents want their kids to have a bunch of medical procedures without their knowledge?

 

[Doublestandards]

Nobody was snappy and I could care less about conservative opinions. I’m talking about common sense that you have very little of. I don’t know a lot of liberal parents who would agree with anything you’re saying lol.

As a society and in most cases legally, we have made the decision that adolescence are not capable of making many choices on their own. That is why there is legal guardians to our responsible for those choices and for the minor.. There is a system in place for parents who do not take care of their kids.

Ok so what’s the common sense for this then, you keep refusing to answer. If a child is raped, and does not want to give birth to the child, but the parents want the child to have the baby, you think the child should be forced to give the birth?

You have so much common sense and you have said multiple times I have none, over the conservative opinions you don’t care about, so it should be a very easy answer for you

 

[Thebrownblob]

Ok so what’s the common sense for this then, you keep refusing to answer. If a child is raped, and does not want to give birth to the child, but the parents want the child to have the baby, you think the child should be forced to give the birth?

You have so much common sense and you have said multiple times I have none, over the conservative opinions you don’t care about, so it should be a very easy answer for you

Go up and read my answer. I already answered that. I also pointed out that that’s the only claim you have is the 1 or 2% of people. it appears you did have very poor parents because you trust them so little to make the right choice I’m sorry for you, apparently you have to turn to the government and strangers for your advice.

 

[Doublestandards]

What if she was raped? That’s always the go to for liberals lol when we know damn well that’s about 1maybe 2% of abortions.

Again, in the vast majority of instances, parental involvement Is a far superior outcome than a stranger or lthe state

Maybe you had crappy parents and don’t know that but most parents love their kids and want the best for them even in difficult situations

Please show me in here where you answered?

And again, fine, be a and talk crap about my parents over a debate, then fine, you must be a really crappy parent if you think you’re kids wouldn’t trust you to talk to you about that decision, and you need the government to force them to tell you

Saying you’re not being snappy when you get triggered by any non conservative talking point and make it personal, give me a break

 

[Thebrownblob]

Please show me in here where you answered?

And again, fine, be a and talk crap about my parents over a debate, then fine, you must be a really crappy parent if you think you’re kids wouldn’t trust you to talk to you about that decision, and you need the government to force them to tell you

Saying you’re not being snappy when you get triggered by any non conservative talking point and make it personal, give me a break

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