THE TRUMP 2024 THREAD

[BrownFlush]

 

[Doublestandards]

How about this one?

 

[Gotta Go]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1896000661084577938

 

[UnionStrong]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1896000661084577938

Let the Brit’s the French and the Germans give money and weapons to Zelenskyy.

 

[rickyb]

nader on the state of america

Trump’s Autocratic Moves Toward Corporate Fascism - Ralph Nader

By Ralph Nader February 28, 2025 Trump has mused publicly about his fondness for Viktor Orbán, Hungary’s “elected” dictator, and how he accomplished commanding control over his people. Trump and his loyal Trumpeteer and Musketeer cohorts are taking an American-style approach, step by faster...

nader.org

 

[Next Day Err]

Let the Brit’s the French and the Germans give money and weapons to Zelenskyy.

The Brits crippled their own economy over the last several years with Brexit lol

We're in the process of our own European exit. Let's see how that works out!

 

[Doublestandards]

The Brits crippled their own economy over the last several years with Brexit lol

We're in the process of our own European exit. Let's see how that works out!

I was thinking the same thing today

 

[Next Day Err]

I was thinking the same thing today

This "do everything ourselves and go it alone" attitude is the dumbest ever.

 

[Next Day Err]

One thing even critics of Trump haven't mentioned in a while... he's failed to do the thing he promised which was to end the Russia/Ukraine conflict "in 24 hours".

You all were lied to. How's it feel?

 

[rickyb]

One thing even critics of Trump haven't mentioned in a while... he's failed to do the thing he promised which was to end the Russia/Ukraine conflict "in 24 hours".

You all were lied to. How's it feel?

i dont take these things seriously. its trump. at least he warned everyone about ww3. did biden do that?

 

[Next Day Err]

i dont take these things seriously. its trump. at least he warned everyone about ww3. did biden do that?

Yes, President Joe Biden has cautioned about the potential for a third world war in the context of direct conflict between NATO and Russia. In March 2022, he stated, "We will not fight a war against Russia in Ukraine. Direct confrontation between NATO and Russia is World War Three, something we must strive to prevent."
The Telegraph

He emphasized the importance of avoiding escalation while supporting Ukraine's defense against Russian aggression.

In February 2023, former President Donald Trump claimed that Biden's decision to send American tanks to Ukraine contradicted Biden's earlier warnings about actions that could lead to World War III. However, this assertion was found to be misleading, as it omitted key context from Biden's original statements.

CNN

Throughout the ongoing conflict, President Biden has maintained that while the U.S. will provide support to Ukraine, it seeks to avoid direct military engagement with Russia to prevent a broader war. He has also warned that direct confrontation between NATO and Russia would amount to World War III, underscoring the administration's efforts to balance support for Ukraine with the imperative to avoid escalating the conflict into a global war.

 

[rickyb]

Yes, President Joe Biden has cautioned about the potential for a third world war in the context of direct conflict between NATO and Russia. In March 2022, he stated, "We will not fight a war against Russia in Ukraine. Direct confrontation between NATO and Russia is World War Three, something we must strive to prevent."
The Telegraph

He emphasized the importance of avoiding escalation while supporting Ukraine's defense against Russian aggression.

In February 2023, former President Donald Trump claimed that Biden's decision to send American tanks to Ukraine contradicted Biden's earlier warnings about actions that could lead to World War III. However, this assertion was found to be misleading, as it omitted key context from Biden's original statements.

CNN

Throughout the ongoing conflict, President Biden has maintained that while the U.S. will provide support to Ukraine, it seeks to avoid direct military engagement with Russia to prevent a broader war. He has also warned that direct confrontation between NATO and Russia would amount to World War III, underscoring the administration's efforts to balance support for Ukraine with the imperative to avoid escalating the conflict into a global war.

biden was still risking it by sending them weapons

world war erupting is not something you can control.

i dont think us govt ever cared about ukraine.

 

[Next Day Err]

biden was still risking it by sending them weapons

So you believe not standing up to bullies is a way to prevent great powers conflicts?

 

[rickyb]

So you believe not standing up to bullies is a way to prevent great powers conflicts?

they wanted the war to drag out.

if they wanted to stop it in the first place, they should not have tried to expand nato.

 

[Pullman Brown]

There’s a realist case for supporting Ukraine. But the honest, realist case comes with doubling US defense spending and rebuilding to some degree the Cold War military. But everybody knows that we really don’t need that, because everyone deep down knows 2025 Russia≠USSR.

Miles Smith

 

[Next Day Err]

they wanted the war to drag out.

if they wanted to stop it in the first place, they should not have tried to expand nato.

“they?”

 

[rickyb]

“they?”

us govt

 

[rickyb]

“they?”

i can give you 3 or 4 different journalist videos on youtube for their take on this if you want

 

[Next Day Err]

they wanted the war to drag out.

if they wanted to stop it in the first place, they should not have tried to expand nato.

There’s some truth to this probably if the “dragging out” part meant more damage to a malign actor called the Russian Federation. They are not our friends and if they attack one of our European friends and think they can do it without deep consequences then they were proven wrong.

Russia was the bad guy. You’ll never convince me that the victim in this story is to blame. Ukraine gave up its nukes in 1994 and we promised to protect their territorial integrity. We failed to over and over.

 

[rickyb]

There’s some truth to this probably if the “dragging out” part meant more damage to a malign actor called the Russian Federation. They are not our friends and if they attack one of our European friends and think they can do it without deep consequences then they were proven wrong.

Russia was the bad guy. You’ll never convince me that the victim in this story is to blame. Ukraine gave up its nukes in 1994 and we promised to protect their territorial integrity. We failed to over and over.

dont hold your breath that the politicians in urkaine were pure.

russia invading was bad. america expanding nato was bad.