MAKAVELI
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Why call it a negotiation then? Call it a surrender.
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Thebrownblob
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I don’t know what to tell you, it’s all they got. Otherwise, they can be speaking Russian for all I care. Take it or leave it.Pretty sure is definitely facts.
Thebrownblob
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Or call it when it is….. Fought hard but they lost? They have a chance to not lose everything.
That’s what happens when you get in bed with the previous administration believing they were doing anything other than using you as bait.
its called a treaty i believe and you both do it.
Doublestandards
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The world is watching and seeing right now what happened to Ukraine after they gave up their nukes, they came to an agreement with Russia and America that they get to keep their independence and have assurances for security as long as they gave them up
Your heart is in the right place and I truly wish it could happen, but I don’t know if others would agree to it
Thebrownblob
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Dumbest thing they ever did. Would be like giving away your guns for someone else to take care of you if something bad happens. Maybe they’ll get to you maybe they won’t.
Disaster in the Oval Office: Dems lead Zelensky, Ukraine off a cliff with pressure to reject mineral deal
Before meeting Trump, Zelensky met with anti-Trump Democrats who advised him to reject the terms of the mineral deal the president was offering, according to Sen. Chris Murphy (D-Conn).
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Doublestandards
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I was reading this and thinking my goodness this is a biased article, but I scrolled up and realized it’s an Opinion pieceDisaster in the Oval Office: Dems lead Zelensky, Ukraine off a cliff with pressure to reject mineral deal
Before meeting Trump, Zelensky met with anti-Trump Democrats who advised him to reject the terms of the mineral deal the president was offering, according to Sen. Chris Murphy (D-Conn).
Anyways,
““Just finished a meeting with President Zelensky here in Washington. He confirmed that the Ukrainian people will not support a fake peace agreement where Putin gets everything he wants and there are no security arrangements for Ukraine,” Murphy’s office posted on X at 11:15 a.m. Friday.”
I don’t see why he would sign a deal like this either. The very minimum there needs to be some sort of security assurances for Ukraine. They’ve been through this before multiple times and I imagine want to be assured it won’t happen again. Otherwise I’m guessing they’d rather just take their chances to keep fighting with Europe’s help
There's an old saying in Tennessee, I know it's in Texas, probably in Tennessee, that says, fool me once, shame on.. shame on you. Fool me… you can't get fooled again.
UnionStrong
Sorry, but I don’t care anymore.
Back stabbing democratsDisaster in the Oval Office: Dems lead Zelensky, Ukraine off a cliff with pressure to reject mineral deal
Before meeting Trump, Zelensky met with anti-Trump Democrats who advised him to reject the terms of the mineral deal the president was offering, according to Sen. Chris Murphy (D-Conn).
Next Day Err
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Mike Lee wants us out of NATO.
Elon Musk wants us out of NATO.
The U.S. is basically a chimpanzee with a loaded firearm right now. What in the ever living
are we even doing.
Elon Musk wants us out of NATO.
The U.S. is basically a chimpanzee with a loaded firearm right now. What in the ever living
are we even doing.
Thebrownblob
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Getting out of NATO?Mike Lee wants us out of NATO.
Elon Musk wants us out of NATO.
The U.S. is basically a chimpanzee with a loaded firearm right now. What in the ever living
tourists24
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True. Thats what it would be if they go at it by themselves
Thebrownblob
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Fixed it for you
Thebrownblob
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Last night, I took the time to watch the whole almost hour. long exchange in Zaleski was being a little prick the whole time. He had told Rubio he was ready to make the deal. He never was ready to make the deal. He came to put on show and make backhanded comments. And what the hell was with the envelope full of pictures? Is this show and tell in front of the media?
Little twerp should’ve been upfront and honest before he came to that meeting. Hopefully Trump doesn’t talk to him again. Ukraine needs a better negotiator Zelinski is an idiot.
Little twerp should’ve been upfront and honest before he came to that meeting. Hopefully Trump doesn’t talk to him again. Ukraine needs a better negotiator Zelinski is an idiot.
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MAKAVELI
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And yet the United States wouldn't be without France.
tourists24
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MAKAVELI
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So , help is good when it comes to our freedom but not good when it comes to others?
Thebrownblob
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Do you think France did it for free and would’ve done it forever especially if it became clear the rebels couldn’t win?
