They are taking FT drivers OT

[cachmeifucan]

Once again....

Where does the new 22.4 language, say anything about people being forced to bid the job ?

There will be people that want a full-time job.


There is no chance RPCD's are going be restricted to 8 hrs a day.

If you want the overtime, don't sign the 9.5 list.

If you don't want to be a 22.4.... don't bid the job.

It's really that simple.



-Bug-

And if you think the contract sucks vote no

 

[browned out]

What's the difference between that and a driver delivering for 10+ hours?

About 600 pieces more that are loaded at an extremely high pace and a circadian time issue. They are exhausted before they will even start driving for the day.

 

[browned out]

Such a narrow minded response “why would anyone need more than 40 hours”. Like everyone in the world lives the same life you do, crawl out from under the rock you live, the world isn’t flat.

I don't know what kind of brown Kool-Aid you're drinking but I think it would be a good idea to cut back on it a little bit. It might be diarrhea.... like your response.

Some drivers want to retire early others want to put their kids through college, some have a cottage on a lake or like to travel ,Etc

This is a definite bad faith negotiation duty of fair representation issue.

The part-timers that were asking for more work never ever ever asked to be put on a list where they can be forced to work up to 70 hours per week up to five years and beyond that.

Why doesn't the 22.4 drivers family time matter at all? Please enlighten me.

 

[1989]

I don't know what kind of brown Kool-Aid you're drinking but I think it would be a good idea to cut back on it a little bit. It might be diarrhea.... like your response.

Some drivers want to retire early others want to put their kids through college, some have a cottage on a lake or like to travel ,Etc

This is a definite bad faith negotiation duty of fair representation issue.

The part-timers that were asking for more work never ever ever asked to be put on a list where they can be forced to work up to 70 hours per week up to five years and beyond that.

Why doesn't the 22.4 drivers family time matter at all? Please enlighten me.

Who said they won’t be protected? We don’t even have a tentative agreement yet.

 

[BigUnionGuy]

Some drivers want to retire early others want to put their kids through college, some have a cottage on a lake or like to travel ,Etc

"Some" drivers have a big mortgage payment.

Or, drive their 50k truck to work.... with their 40k bass boat attached.


Maybe, a big alimony payment with child support.


It's not hard to read between the lines.

 

[1989]

"Some" drivers have a big mortgage payment.

Or, drive their 50k truck to work.... with their 40k bass boat attached.


Maybe, a big alimony payment with child support.


It's not hard to read between the lines.

Damn women.

 

[Coldworld]

You’ll be fine. Since federal oversight, you don’t need to deal with the mob as much. They all went to other small unions. I kinda with we still had those ties. Sniff, sniff.
Can you tell Taylor to take out “as long as work is available”? This will open up a can of worms. I can see it now. If I show up, I get 8 no matter if there is not a single package in the place.

Yep.. in feeder if they need a couple pick ups covered they will “find “ some more stuff to do to get your 10 hours.... if feeder can do it sure in hell pkg can find 20 drivers who need help....

 

[Coldworld]

These negotiations are addressing the concerns of current full time drivers. despite there being more part timers than full timers. Part timers don't vote. Therefore the negotiators are not concerned with part time needs or concerns. Future 22.4 drivers are current part timers.

Future 22.4 drivers are currently out in the real world working at other companies... I will wager that many of these 22.4 jobs in SOME areas will be filled from off the street hires

 

[BigUnionGuy]

Damn women.

Some drivers might say that.

As their wife is dropping them off at work.... in her Lexus.

 

[Robretro]

What's the difference between that and a driver delivering for 10+ hours?

Waking up at 2-3am and slinging boxes wears you out. From a safety standpoint, this idea isn’t safe.

 

[IVE GOTTA PACKAGE 4U]

Waking up at 2-3am and slinging boxes wears you out. From a safety standpoint, this idea isn’t safe.

And when I'm on my 11th our delivering in the dark is safe?

 

[Robretro]

And when I'm on my 11th our delivering in the dark is safe?

No, it is not. I think driving after preload hours sleep is a different kind of unsafe though. They will be a different kind of tired because of the early am wakeup.

 

[IVE GOTTA PACKAGE 4U]

No, it is not. I think driving after preload hours sleep is a different kind of unsafe though. They will be a different kind of tired because of the early am wakeup.

You need to adjust your sleeping schedule.

 

[Robretro]

You need to adjust your sleeping schedule.

Maybe they can install fake sunlamps on the trucks to keep people awake. Humans are supposed to rise with the sun and rising before and working like a donkey followed by driving sounds like a recipe for distaster in my opinion.

We aren’t all made of clay like you.

 

[PT Car Washer]

No, it is not. I think driving after preload hours sleep is a different kind of unsafe though. They will be a different kind of tired because of the early am wakeup.

If this is such a huge safety issue, why does the company allow PT and Art 22.3 to deliver after working the preload? Sometimes until 4 or 6 PM.

 

[IVE GOTTA PACKAGE 4U]

Maybe they can install fake sunlamps on the trucks to keep people awake. Humans are supposed to rise with the sun and rising before and working like a donkey followed by driving sounds like a recipe for distaster in my opinion.

We aren’t all made of clay like you.

We have had combo drivers working that schedule for years.
They start at 3 am and are done around noon or 1

 

[Brohn Bron]

kick rocks troll

?? Huh?

 

[browned out]

Who said they won’t be protected? We don’t even have a tentative agreement yet.

The Teamsters said the 22.4s would not receive 9.5 protection. That's who.

Article 37, Section 1.b. and c. shall not apply to 22.4 combination drivers. In those buildings in which the Company creates 22.4 combination jobs to cover weekend deliveries, Article 37, Section 1.c. 9.5 protections shall apply to all seniority RPCDs regardless of the route they hold Article 22-Full-Time Combination and Part-Time Employees - UPS Rising

 

[MenInBrown]

The Teamsters said the 22.4s would not receive 9.5 protection. That's who.

Article 37, Section 1.b. and c. shall not apply to 22.4 combination drivers. In those buildings in which the Company creates 22.4 combination jobs to cover weekend deliveries, Article 37, Section 1.c. 9.5 protections shall apply to all seniority RPCDs regardless of the route they hold Article 22-Full-Time Combination and Part-Time Employees - UPS Rising

They will be UPS slaves.

 

[born2Bwild]

On the other side of coin. What prevents them from doing this now? They can hire full time drivers for the purpose of relieving excessive overtime . Why does it have to be 22.4?