UPS Hierarchy

[beentheredonethat]

I am not 100% positive about what every single job has for pay band designation. From everything I've seen, a pkg center manager is a pkg center manager and they are all 30E's. An on road supervisor is a 20F. I was told (so not positive) that a hub manager of a sort is a 30D. I was told a preload manager (if your building has one, is lower then a pkg center manager, but I do not know the letter). All the division managers are a 40 pay band. However, I do not know the letter assignment.

I am a manager currently in a sub function of sales. So I'm not currently in operations.

The vast majority of pkg center managers were on roads\preload supvs\local sort etc. The vast majority of pkg div mgrs were pkg center managers. However, were 100% of them, NO.. I know of one pkg division manager who never was a mgr or a supv in operations.

I'm sure the same is similar with ops managers. All that I have seen held operations div mgr level jobs before (pkg div mgr, or hub div mgr or fdr div mgr or many or all of the above).

 

['Lord Brown's bidding']

How many different "divisions"-for lack of a better term - are there, eg. Operations, TSG, LP, Sales, etc? I am guessing management can be transferred between any of these levels if needed, although I believe Pho said UPS is more about specialization now, so they wouldn't switch you guys around much.

Having said that though, my current center manager was a hub mgr; my area on-car (we have three in our center) ran the air driver op when I first met him, and spent some time in LP (which he said he liked); and the neighboring center manager in my hub was a sales mgr for a while. I didn't realize before seeing her how integrated sales is with operations, although it makes sense now.

Might/Have UPS do/done something similar with UPS Freight managers in relation to the other div/depts?

If a center manager is posted to a bldg mgr position (and yes, my hub has one, although I do not know who the current one is), given that the BM is one letter lower, is that considered a demotion? I can see how it might not be (just as being moved off a route that used a trailer - pup to one without one, while not offering the same amount of base pay, is not a demotion), but I can see how it might be perceived as one.

Speaking about that supv who ran the air driver op, but is now an on-car, who would he report to? An on-car would report to the center manager, a preload supv to the PM, but the air supv? (and is he an air on - road supv? Also, is his subordinate a FT specialist? I've always looked at the air supv as a lower mgr, with his subordinate(s) being on-cars, but in light of this discussion I am realizing they are supvs, too, so who is their mgr?

 

[beentheredonethat]

In the district there are a lot of divisions.

Multiple Pkg Divisions, Hub divisions, Fdr Divisions and the Air division. In staff, there is LP, HR, BD, Marketing, Auto, PE, Labor, Finance, IE. I'm sure I missed a few. In the corporate level their are further breakouts, Customer Solutions, Multiple IS divisions, Tax, Real Estate, etc).

People can and do move from one job to another (ie an on road supv 20F, going to a Preload Supv 20E (guess - but definitely lower). However, when it is a new job to crosstrain the person, they will retain their pay and pay grade (ie 20F). That temporary rotation can last I believe up to two years. After that if the person stays, then they would be dropped to a lower job category. (At least that's what I was told).

If you are referring to a supv who was in charge of the drivers delivering air volume, then that would ultimately report to the pkg center manager. If you are referring to an air supv that handles the movement of air pkgs at gateway, then that would be the Air Mgr for that gateway.

 

[TxRoadDawg]

Myron Gray is above a Region Manager level - probably a 27 or so. He reports to the CEO.

UPS is certainly hiring people (District and Region managers as well) based on educational level but more so business acumen. Operations experience is a plus but a person can be rotated into a District Manager position to give them operational experience.

goody, I always loved it when salesmen, nurses, and engineers try to tell me how to load a package car theyve never seen the inside of

 

[Catatonic]

goody, I always loved it when salesmen, nurses, and engineers try to tell me how to load a package car theyve never seen the inside of

Really, when was the last time a District Manager or even a Division Manager instruct you on how to load a package car?

 

['Lord Brown's bidding']

Really, when was the last time a District Manager or even a Division Manager instruct you on how to load a package car?

For me, it was 2008. The pull I did was on the side of the hub closest to the main offices for the district, right at the end of the boxline, so when upper level managers would want to stroll through the operation and observe, I was one of the first people they'd see.

One day the div mgr comes by and sees my irreg drop is a little crowded, and instructs me that I have to get these irregs in the car. I replied I'll do so when I had time, as the pull was rather heavy then, nor were my cars in a condition to accept irregs. She summoned my boxline supv, who then proceeded to get me help to put the irregs in the car. After she was gone, and one irreg made it into a car, the help was dismissed and I went back to minding my business.