I also think you're going to have a lot of retirements coming up within the next year.
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Faceplanted
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Anybody who told them to piss off with the 6 day punch, pointing to the “work week is 5 consecutive days” language in the south had nothing happen to them when refusing a 6th punch.
Extra work is not meant to be every weekend. That is a scheduling/staffing issue.
pkgdriver
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Do it. You deserve it.
Faceplanted
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Been hearing that for a decade. Retirements have been the same number every year even after boomers supposedly were going to have a mass exodus.
Just A UPS Guy
Bully.
Okay, wtf does that have to do with it?
I'm working on it.
If I didn't have the age penalty I'll be gone after this year no doubt
I'm just going by what other employees have told me.
If you're close to the end of a contract you never want to leave before that
Faceplanted
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In the south, and in my building… those will balls pointed to the southern language “the work week shall be 5 consecutive days”
When told it was forced bottom up, they/the BA argued that an event happening every single week is not something extraordinary and should be staffed properly. They filed on the staffing language as well as the 5 consecutive day language and no discipline ever stuck in my building for those refusing a 6th punch.
Faceplanted
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Fat feeder guys who don’t like their wives, or are lonely/divorced, and gossip all day on homosexual group calls wirh the rest of their FNN buddies aren’t going anywhere in my building.
Just A UPS Guy
Bully.
We have the same language here, so what? I'm saying that since no one can be forced a 6th day, many of those laid off drivers that get a punch on Saturday will have to be put into the fold. That's what you were initially talking about, no?
I don't know what to tell you
Maybe if we get a pension increase in this contract maybe it will incentivize more people to leave
Faceplanted
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Our ba forced ups to staff sat operations with 22.4 drivers as the contract stated. 22.4 drivers in my building have been working tue-fri in the building, and then getting their driver punch on sat
Without that driver punch on sat, ups in my area’s position was that layoff language would hit, and after x amount of days without a driver punch, they bump down from their 22.4 rate of $3x hr to what their hub rate would be.
Years ago when we had lay offs after 2008, full time drivers go sent back to the hub. After a couple weeks of not driving their pay dropped from 28-30 or whatever full time driver pay was, to 20-22hr or so which was most of their hub rates
Just A UPS Guy
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I'd bet you'd get a few more than usual in the next couple years.
We have some people that love to go but unfortunately it was considered part-time for too many years and their pension check will not be big enough even though they got the years of service
Just A UPS Guy
Bully.
Okay, that's how layoffs work. I'm not sure what you're getting at here. Many of what are now 22.4s will be working as package car drivers because there will still be Tu-Sa schedules, 9.5 should have more teeth, and volume will most likely increase. Some of them will be laid off, yes, and that sucks.
Hopefully there is no time requirement to get the added pension money. Wasn’t it in last contract you had to work two years after ratification to qualify for top pension pay?
Just A UPS Guy
Bully.
I don't really know, I'm in the west, it functions quite a bit differently.
Just A UPS Guy
Bully.
I can leave at 55 and get about $5,800/mo. Probably work another five years though, leave at 60.
Like I said that kind of money I would definitely be gone
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