UPS LATEST PROPOSAL

[catstalking]

140 million a year give

we get it back in turnover and production, plus whatever we negotiated lower in "exchange" for it

 

[Just A UPS Guy]

he's neither, the company wanted 22.4 language gone, it was an EZ give

I don't consider that a win anyway, we voted against it to begin with and they forced it on us.

 

[IVE GOTTA PACKAGE 4U]

we get it back in turnover and production, plus whatever we negotiated lower in "exchange" for it

Obviously I have not seen any of the language but so far according to Sean we have not given any givebacks

Guess we'll all find out in a couple of days

 

[catstalking]

according to Sean we have not given any givebacks

he's quite the bridge-seller isn't he

 

[Thebrownblob]

he's quite the bridge-seller isn't he

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What would you expect him to say?

 

[anonymous23456]

What would you expect him to say?

In Boston, we have no bridge to sell you like in Brooklyn, NY.

 

[Thebrownblob]

In Boston, we have no bridge to sell you like in Brooklyn, NY.

Oh

 

[Just A UPS Guy]

In Boston, we have no bridge to sell you like in Brooklyn, NY.

Leonard P. Zakim says different.

 

[Brownsocks]

Quite a few higher seniority guys will pick Tuesday through Saturday simply because it’s a lot more relaxed Saturday less supervision, and some of the routes are cut on Monday. Like I said, this is a great solution, and is a win for both sides. Effectively killing two birds with one stone 22.4 gone, and the need to force almost eradicated because of it. Might need volunteers for coverage from time to time.

Mondays totally suck with the route cuts, but not enough for me to volunteer for a Saturday schedule.
We have 3 RPCDs that were hired before the last ratification that fall under the current Art 22. I wonder what will happen there, and will the blanket 9.5 protection in Art22 remain?
I'm excited to read the new language. Here's hoping for a whole lot less gray area.

 

[9.5mania]

I agree, but he didn't promise great language and mediocre raises.

You are right, the problem is trying to define our terms on what a great raise is. Some would say $6-$8 dollars over 5yrs for RPCD is a great raise while others won’t accept anything under $10. We’ll just have to see in a few days. I have a suspicion we will be quibbling over a couple of dollars in the end.

 

[BigUnionGuy]

Some would say $6-$8 dollars over 5yrs for RPCD is a great raise while others won’t accept anything under $10.

Let's see them stand on the strike like for that.

 

[Number-Nine]

any word on today negotiations? i guess since there hasnt been a walk out yet is good news

 

[Thebrownblob]

any word on today negotiations? i guess since there hasnt been a walk out yet is good news

For the last time, no walk out was going to happen before August 1.

 

[IVE GOTTA PACKAGE 4U]

For the last time no walk out was going to happen before August 1.

I don't know where that came from

 

[Thebrownblob]

I don't know where that came from

IDK, Sean demanding an offer so that we can get it voted on before the Aug1 . It’s not the same as us walking out the July 5.

 

[IVE GOTTA PACKAGE 4U]

IDK, Sean demanding an offer so that we can get it voted on before the Aug1 . It’s not the same as us walking out the July 5.

We're still under contract until the end of the month

 

[Undertow]

There is a lot of business you can do with a weekday off compared to a weekend.

Definitely true and not every driver's life outside the company is the same. Any guy stuck with a UPS Store pickup on Monday regardless of whether a preliminary or cleanup might consider choosing Saturday in part with that in mind.

The pickups in my center are so heavy on Mondays that it's by far the most demanding day of the week.

 

[Just A UPS Guy]

You are right, the problem is trying to define our terms on what a great raise is. Some would say $6-$8 dollars over 5yrs for RPCD is a great raise while others won’t accept anything under $10. We’ll just have to see in a few days. I have a suspicion we will be quibbling over a couple of dollars in the end.

I think the $10+ screamers are definitely a small minority, just loud. I don't know anyone personally who would turn down $6-$8, and I'd venture to say most would take less.

 

[Number-Nine]

For the last time, no walk out was going to happen before August 1.

they literally walked out on negotiations last week after UPS economic proposal

 

[Just A UPS Guy]

For the last time, no walk out was going to happen before August 1.

Or maybe he's referring to Sean and the boys walking out of negotiations again?

Settle the down!