PT Car Washer
Banned
It's what he does. Makes a personal attack when he can't think of a rebuttal..
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Non liberal
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And that’s exactly the way it should be. The full timer is making a bigger sacrifice than you. If you want his money then sacrifice another 4 hrs of your time. Make sense? Work slower if it makes you feel better.
UnionStrong
Sorry, but I don’t care anymore.
Because he knows things, it’s his job.
HarryWarden
Well-Known Member
Why would I work slower? If I wanted more hours, I would go full time. Equal pay for equal work. He will have a bigger paycheck then me because he is full time and working twice as many hours, that is fair
What is not fair is me loading for 10 years making $18 an hour and a full time loader making $35 an hour doing the same job
PT Car Washer
Banned
It's not another 4 hours. Most times it is 2 to 6 hours or more between double shifting. Not everyone works in a one belt hick building.
Non liberal
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It actually is, apparently it’s the reason why talks broke down this morning.
Non liberal
Well-Known Member
It’s not equal work when your working 4hrs less a day!
Yeet
Not gonna let ‘em catch the Midnight Rider
He’s one of the more level headed and least insulting guys here. And you know this.
Yeet
Not gonna let ‘em catch the Midnight Rider
We can’t know for sure but the most recent update from the union was 100% crying about part time wages which makes me expect that’s where talks fell through.
HarryWarden
Well-Known Member
For the first 4 hours it is…
Do you also believe a driver who signs a 9.5 list should have a lower hourly pay for the first 8 hours driving than the other driver who doesn’t sign the list?
The other driving is working more hours and making a bigger sacrifice as you say, why should they have the same hourly pay for doing the same job?
HarryWarden
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If that’s true that’s very sad for this website
Yeet
Not gonna let ‘em catch the Midnight Rider
Same classification. Both are RPCD. You are arguing a PT loader should make the same as a FT loader. Different classification.
Is it right? Probably not. But it is what it is.
Yeet
Not gonna let ‘em catch the Midnight Rider
Nah just kind of a weird and stressful time right now, surely you get that. Everyone is at each others throats.
HarryWarden
Well-Known Member
It is what it is? So we should never discuss anything ever again? Should we have just let 22.4 stay because “it is what it is”?
It didn’t always used to be like this by the way… starting pay for a loader in 1980 was $8.50 an hour. When I started loading over 10 years ago, it was still $8.50 an hour
$8.50 in the 80s was much different pay back then and there wasn’t as big of a wage gap
Thebrownblob
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I can assure you paying part-timers the same as 22.3 workers is not on the table. I have no idea where you got that from.
Yeet
Not gonna let ‘em catch the Midnight Rider
Man we all went through it. I was inside for 15 years and got screwed on every contract. I didn’t like my paycheck, or the respect I was getting so I changed my situation. We get you’re pissed dude, but don’t think you are the first the only or the last guy to go through this.
Thebrownblob
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Trust me a healthy starting raise is on the table as well as money for people, such as yourself to right size you, is, what’s on the table for part-timers
HarryWarden
Well-Known Member
Why are you so sure of that? And are you saying you personally believe a long term part time loader should not get the same hourly rate for doing the exact same job as a full time loader? And if so, please explain your belief
Thebrownblob
Well-Known Member
Money was a pretty big reason but not because they want to pay part-timers the same wage as 22.3.
HarryWarden
Well-Known Member
Well it should be, atleast after a decent progression
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