catstalking
ie qt
it's the fixed hiring cost + benefits, it's extremely expensive compared to OT
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catstalking
ie qt
Teamster memes during negotiations, what a time to be alive
Brownsocks
Just a dog
I agree 1000%,.
Thanks to Joe the Democrats pissed off 100k rail workers, so I'm not sure they really want to piss off 340k UPS workers and the Teamsters. If you remember Biden only won the presidency by 44k ballots in the deciding states.
catstalking
ie qt
your votes don't count
who needs 340k teamsters when you have 2mil "voters" coming across the border annually
Brownsocks
Just a dog
I agree. Fortunately Republicans have started their own ballot harvesting operations. Atleast 50% of those immigrants are conservative, so maybe we should look in to that too.
catstalking
ie qt
Brownsocks
Just a dog
Lmao Show me how illegals voted in 2016.
catstalking
ie qt
an illegal today is 4 citizens in 18 years
where do you think the tens of millions of Hispanics who vote straight Democrat came from, just appeared from nowhere?
anonymous23456
Well-Known Member
No...that would be Amazon.
anonymous23456
Well-Known Member
Why are we having too many confusing rules with the Union? That's why the Union doesn't create or run a business. It is like the goddam government!
burrheadd
KING Of GIFS
You sure they aren’t down at the “all you can eat”
My god this thread has gotten out of control. Went through 8 pages of the same arguments, so here is my take.
You aren’t gonna like it, but there is a real distinction between PT and FT. One is a job, while the other is a career. Yes, I get you both do the same job, and yes, you have shown your commitment to the job by working here 10yrs., but all companies invest more in FT salaries over their part time counterparts. You may do the same thing but the fact remains you both don’t have the same job. I realize his FT job isn’t normal and he does porter work afterwards but please don’t straw man the PT vs FT distinction due to this position at UPS. You get paid less because UPS values and respects FT over PT for their commitment to making UPS their career, placing all their eggs in this basket.
Your argument over RPCD on 9.5 list isn’t logical because they have the same job while you and the FT guy don’t. I think I understand where you were headed so I’ll try to firm it up for you. Should TCD’s and PVD’s make the same as a RPCD? My answer is no, even though they do the same job as I do. Why? Because the company has invested more training and time into me than them. This is a career to me while it is just a job for them. Therefore, I get paid more based on the commitment the company and myself made to each other. We all fought against the 22.4’s being paid less because they are FT doing the same thing as RPCD’s. The distinction, again, is they deserve same pay because they are FT not PT like TCD’s.
We all agree that you making $17 is garbage and you deserve more, but you don’t deserve as much as a FT employee. You won’t agree with my assessment, and I respect that, but I’m still correct. We have your back demanding more pay, $20 seems fair to me starting off and giving you and others catch up pay for your years of service.
You aren’t gonna like it, but there is a real distinction between PT and FT. One is a job, while the other is a career. Yes, I get you both do the same job, and yes, you have shown your commitment to the job by working here 10yrs., but all companies invest more in FT salaries over their part time counterparts. You may do the same thing but the fact remains you both don’t have the same job. I realize his FT job isn’t normal and he does porter work afterwards but please don’t straw man the PT vs FT distinction due to this position at UPS. You get paid less because UPS values and respects FT over PT for their commitment to making UPS their career, placing all their eggs in this basket.
Your argument over RPCD on 9.5 list isn’t logical because they have the same job while you and the FT guy don’t. I think I understand where you were headed so I’ll try to firm it up for you. Should TCD’s and PVD’s make the same as a RPCD? My answer is no, even though they do the same job as I do. Why? Because the company has invested more training and time into me than them. This is a career to me while it is just a job for them. Therefore, I get paid more based on the commitment the company and myself made to each other. We all fought against the 22.4’s being paid less because they are FT doing the same thing as RPCD’s. The distinction, again, is they deserve same pay because they are FT not PT like TCD’s.
We all agree that you making $17 is garbage and you deserve more, but you don’t deserve as much as a FT employee. You won’t agree with my assessment, and I respect that, but I’m still correct. We have your back demanding more pay, $20 seems fair to me starting off and giving you and others catch up pay for your years of service.
anonymous23456
Well-Known Member
I think PT and FT people should get the same basic wage pay and progression. The difference should be pension and health benefits. PT should get less in that area.
burrheadd
KING Of GIFS
That’s crazy talk
He just got moms basement fixed up like he wants it a thrift store coach a garage sale flat screen PS5 and a new bong with a fat sack of the good good
He’s going nowhere
burrheadd
KING Of GIFS
burrheadd
KING Of GIFS
Did he ever consider working full time is harder to work in part-time and that's why they get paid more?
burrheadd
KING Of GIFS
Nope you’re part time
PT Car Washer
Banned
Not nearly as many as today. Made more economic sense to employee one FT member instead of 2 or 3 PT. That all changed with the minimum wages UPS pays PT today.
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