UPS Shooting- San Francisco (Rant & News thread)

[Cementups]

Is that really a signal ????? LOL

Yes. Fog lights on means you want some "company"

 

[Dhydratd]

Now that we know his name, is there a way to see if he ever posted on the BC?

LOL, like anyone here uses their real name when signing up!!

 

[Gotout]

Then UPS Atlata called division manager in SF and instructed manager destroy all evidence of shooter filing grievances against company. Have to create the image that UPS did in no way drive this person to do this. The family of victims need to lawyer to preserve the company personal/disciplinary . records of shooter.

Sounds good, but not possible. Grievances go through a steward who will (read: should) give a copy to the local. They will still be out there. Don't worry though, 55 will still put this squarely on a "disturbed" individual. Which he was, regardless of the role that the local management team played.

 

[dookie stain]

This isn't even going to make sense right now because I am so angry/sad/disgusted...I have seen more than my fair share of people killed..but anybody here saying this had nothing to do with management harassing people is either ignorant or just plain stupid...this place will absolutely break you if you let it...I used to get in screaming matches with management until I literally blacked out and saw red...now I just smile and laugh when I realize how pathetic they are...some people can't do that...this guy was one of them...now I'm rambling...roll damn tide

 

[PASinterference]

So once again you blame it on management, you are so full of it. I can say the same thing about hourly employees in regards to dishonesty and fraud and I try and get rid of every one of them. Here is one of my examples: you are on the 9.5 list, we reduce your work load substantially, you still work 9.48 hours everyday not 8.5, 9.0 or 8.75 . That my friend, is stealing in my eyes. You cannot afford to work 8-9 hours a day and sure as hell not in SF. So if you want it, work for it by the guidelines laid out by the employer. Some days you will win, some days you won't (your words) the key is to have more winning days then losing days. I could post my opinion on the production standards but will save it for another time.

So you really want to change things? Go in to work tomorrow morning and say good morning and mean it..to your supervisor or manager. Have a conversation that is not related to work from the day before. We live in your community also. Yes your management team will address some things from the day before, because that is what management does in any business. It's not us against you, (all we have is each other) if you have that in your center then someone in your building/center/barn created it and feeds off of it. That some one could be management or hourly do not feed into the BS it is what they want.

Everything I posted above is the way I run my center, is it perfect no, but at least we are not at each other's throats everyday. So with all that said look in the mirror in the morning and ask yourself if you are part of the problem at work.

My heart goes out to the families that lost a loved one today, I hope they find peace and solace in the coming days.

You are as full of as a Christmas turkey.

 

[tadpole]

Here is one of my examples: you are on the 9.5 list, we reduce your work load substantially, you still work 9.48 hours everyday not 8.5, 9.0 or 8.75 . That my friend, is stealing in my eyes.

You really touched a nerve with me with that comment. You sound like my on car, and if you are anything like him, you won't listen to me, but...

This is someone that wants to be home early so much that they are willing to risk putting a target on their back and dealing with more hassles involved in being on the list. A "substantial" amount of work obviously wasn't enough.
Maybe they wanted to get home early so bad that they were working through breaks and cutting every corner they could. Until you piled up more and more work on him every day, so that he had to cut all the corners just to get a 10 hr day. Then he realized the only way to fix it is start doing everything by the book and get on the list. Then management will accuse him of not giving a fair days work, even though he is busting his tail.

If you really think he's stealing, why don't you ask him how many stops he wants every day, give him exactly that many, and see what time he gets in?

Or better yet, give him a normal stop count for that route from 5 years ago.

 

[olroadbeech]

This isn't even going to make sense right now because I am so angry/sad/disgusted...I have seen more than my fair share of people killed..but anybody here saying this had nothing to do with management harassing people is either ignorant or just plain stupid...this place will absolutely break you if you let it...I used to get in screaming matches with management until I literally blacked out and saw red...now I just smile and laugh when I realize how pathetic they are...some people can't do that...this guy was one of them...now I'm rambling...roll damn tide

years ago, when there was a mass shooting somewhere in the country , we used to sit in the break room and ask how come it has not happened with UPS?

it really wasn't a question of "If" it would happen but "when" it would happen.

so glad I am out. metal detectors, psychological screening, more weeding out firings of people that don't seem to fit the UPS ideal under false pretenses and more.

 

[Dhydratd]

Oh, you mean when someone in front of you gets cut off, slams on their brakes, then you take a split second to react and not hit the person in front of you.

Then get ridiculed for being rear-ended because you didn't warn the person behind you that you were stopping abruptly?

...Literally had to go upstairs to be heard because the driver was given a warning letter at the center level.

Warning letter for getting hit in the rear? Hell, my wife should have a thick folder of those!!

 

[JL 0513]

Most of us at UPS learn to brush management off because we realize they're trained to push us and are pressured themselves to produce numbers. We quickly get to a point (hopefully not too long after making book as a driver) to just not care about numbers. If you do, it will consume you. If there's any type of mental deficiency, a person can go off in the worst way. Don't let any aspect of this job get to you.

 

[dookie stain]

years ago, when there was a mass shooting somewhere in the country , we used to sit in the break room and ask how come it has not happened with UPS?

it really wasn't a question of "If" it would happen but "when" it would happen.

so glad I am out. metal detectors, psychological screening, more weeding out firings of people that don't seem to fit the UPS ideal under false pretenses and more.

I'm surprised this doesn't happen more

 

[BakerMayfield2018]

I'm surprised this doesn't happen more

You shouldn't say that.... on a public forum..

 

[dookie stain]

You shouldn't say that.... on a public forum..

I'm glad it doesn't happen often...but the way they treat people is nuts...how do I delete it

 

[StoptheAct1212]

Messed up. All jokes aside. For anyone to go through this... sucks

 

[Catatonic]

You shouldn't say that.... on a public forum..

Why, because olroadbeech said it first?

 

[BakerMayfield2018]

I'm glad it doesn't happen often...but the way they treat people is nuts...how do I delete it

Don't worry about it. Just relax Boss. We know what you meant. Just be careful on this topic.

 

[BakerMayfield2018]

Why, because olroadbeech said it first?

I just walked in. I'm walking back out now. Peace.

 

[wayfair]

Why, because olroadbeech said it first?

who does she work for?? those stripper chicks are very vindictive

 

[Returntosender]

Initial reports shooter filed a grievance for excessive overtime. The other victims were drivers, no mention if drivers were on road supervisors.

shooter chased one of victims out the building to shoot him.

 

[Trackless in brown]

A union official says the gunman who shot and killed three people at a UPS warehouse in San Francisco had filed a grievance complaining that he was working excessive overtime.

Joseph Cilia, an official with a local Teamsters Union, says Jimmy Lam's grievance filed in March requested that UPS relieve him of working overtime going forward.

 

[Trackless in brown]

looks like UPS greed costs 3 peoples lives today