UpstateNYUPSer(Ret)
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He must be talking about 8 hour requests.
UPS Teamsters keeping their next two Wage increases
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He must be talking about 8 hour requests.
Hockeyparent
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Budget based on 40 hours @ my original wage of 18.50 an hour. It's been 6 years of 52+ hours. Yeah OT whores. Or smart whatever you think.
UpstateNYUPSer(Ret)
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Smart would be budgeting based on 40 hours and treating any OT as gravy.
Hockeyparent
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I know what I am. I don't need anyone to let me know. I asked for support for something, that is important to me. For future of UPS. The pension or lack their of is not going to affect me financially either way. If I can have my pension pay for my future electric bill I will be happy. I know how hard everyone works, for UPS. It would be nice to not just give it away. That's the bottom line. If your interested in relying on a failing system. You will be working again after ups.
BigUnionGuy
Got the T-Shirt
Just let me get this straight.
You, would prefer having your wage increases, in your pocket.
Instead.... of being diverted to "shore up" your particular Pension Fund.
And, were hoping the majority of members would be "like minded".
Does that sound about right ?
Help me out.
-Bug-
Hockeyparent
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Well I would hope that majority members would understand that if they saved their wage increases they'd be better off than just giving them away. "Shore Up" is not a guarantee. Putting your wage increase in the bank account for only them to touch. Is A guarantee.
Hockeyparent
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The math on the Wage Diverson is fuzzy @ best. If you can say I'm wrong please do.
that is exactly what he is saying. as soon as contract was ratified by the local, the pension fund sent out a ballot to vote to either give up last 2 contractual raises or our retirement age would be raised to 30 years of service and the age of 65 for a full retirement, if we wanted to give up the raises it would only be for age 55 and 30 years of service for full retirement. We voted to give up those future raises, which is exactly what hockey parent feels that since the fund cannot be saved by these future raises being given up he shouldn't have to make that sacrifice.
UpstateNYUPSer(Ret)
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If I work after UPS it will be my choice doing something that I enjoy but it will NOT be because I HAVE to.
UpstateNYUPSer(Ret)
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Banks are paying roughly 1%.
Hockeyparent
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More than 0%
UpstateNYUPSer(Ret)
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When we voted on possible pension rehabilitation plans we were given 5 choices, A through E.
So you are saying that since the pension fund has announced the 20/31/50 proposed cuts that you guys should get a "re-do" on the wage diversion vote?
Hockeyparent
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Now that there is more evidence to substantiate a less reckless vote. Yes that's what I'm saying.
UpstateNYUPSer(Ret)
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I would have to agree that pension cuts AND wage diversions would be the equivalent of double taxation.
You may have a strong case for a re-do.
You may have a strong case for a re-do.
i'm saying that we were given another vote after the a through e vote with only 2 new options, as soon as ratification of contract (within days) we received a vote to take our last 2 raises for this contract. the a through e options are the raises we lost in the contract that expired in 2013.
BigUnionGuy
Got the T-Shirt
Just a friendly piece of advice....
I wanted to understand your thoughts.
But, you might have just unleashed the "Teamster Dogs of War".
Complaining in the Union Forum ??
Oh boy....
-Bug-
Hockeyparent
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And before we give our wage increases away recklessly. We should revisit the topic before they are gone for good. Like the last raises. It's worth supporting, they have no evidence that wage diversions have worked. None.
Hockeyparent
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I'm not sure what you mean by Teamster Dogs of War- Bug. Is that a threat? I've been worried about asking questions. Especially with the Teamsters. i shouldn't feel that way. I shouldn't feel worried about giving wage increases away without answers.
BigUnionGuy
Got the T-Shirt
Please tell me....
You are not one of these juvenile millennial's, whose vagina gets hurt....
on a daily basis ?
I'm trying to help you.
-Bug-
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Hockeyparent
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Not at all. I'm as tough as they get.
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