Viewpoints for new contract, what's in-store?

[IVE GOTTA PACKAGE 4U]

Garbage

Depends on your situation I guess. Less money but less days at brown

 

[UpstateNYUPSer(Ret)]

The main reason to go to a 4 x 10 schedule is to reduce OT. Paying it after 8 defeats the purpose.

 

[wide load]

The main reason to go to a 4 x 10 schedule is to reduce OT. Paying it after 8 defeats the purpose.

I don't understand. You mean "The main reason to go to a 4 x 10 schedule is to reduce OT" pay? If they wanted to reduce it, they can cap you at 5 8's.

 

[UpstateNYUPSer(Ret)]

The word pay was inferred.

 

[wide load]

The word pay was inferred.

Well I'm not trying to be difficult but good work. Not a fan of 4 10's.

 

[Coldworld]

Does it address the yellow freight acquisition also

What about yellow freight??

 

[Coldworld]

Heard a manager say something like do away with P/T benefits for big pay raise. He was definitely shopping it with the guys. He then told the OMS to throw it out there for everyone. They always go fishing before a Contract.

Your manager has no say or dog in the fight except when we get raises and no pay healthcare it's more than likely coming out of that scrubs benefits at some time... fact!

 

[Coldworld]

really worried about sentence structure on a thread, good for you sir, you make good mangement

He's bored....

 

[Coldworld]

your going to be on the line with me, book it

Yeah, I don't think so....he might not cross a picket line but he sure in hell wouldn't walk on one...fact

 

[Coldworld]

The language involved making some feeder runs 4 x 10.

Why would you care about feeder business?? And btw, in feeder a 10 hour day is like having a 7 hour day in pkg... its not going to happen on 90% of the runs...

 

[Coldworld]

No deal. The only way I would agree to that is OT after 8. UPS could always turn our 5 day punch into just a 40 hour week. So at 35 an hour that's 1400. 4 10's with OT after 8 is 1540. So good job voting that garbage down.

I doubt that's why he voted it down...

 

[Indecisi0n]

No uniforms. Just brown body paint.View attachment 134042

Guy is hung like a horse

 

[anHOURover]

I don't understand. You mean "The main reason to go to a 4 x 10 schedule is to reduce OT" pay? If they wanted to reduce it, they can cap you at 5 8's.

I LOVE MY 4 10's
Fact

 

[anHOURover]

The NMA was ratified by majority vote.

Several supplements were imposed as it quickly became obvious that the members were being unrealistic in their demands regarding healthcare.

YOU HAVE NO CLUE WHAT YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT HERE.
FACT

 

[anHOURover]

The contract was NOT imposed.

AS I SAID BEFORE
YOU GET PAID ONCE A MONTH AND PAY FOR YOUR HEALTHCARE
COMPANY MAN!!! FACT

 

[pickup]

The main reason to go to a 4 x 10 schedule is to reduce OT. Paying it after 8 defeats the purpose.

Yuppers, there are some feeder bids where the assigned run is only in operation for 4 days anyway. The other day of that drivers working week is spent doing "busy" work just to get the guy through his eight hours

 

[BrownMonk]

Your manager has no say or dog in the fight except when we get raises and no pay healthcare it's more than likely coming out of that scrubs benefits at some time... fact!

The managers are told to shop ideas and see how they are received. They are also told to play union against union. Get the part timers against the full timers.

 

[Mugarolla]

I don't understand. You mean "The main reason to go to a 4 x 10 schedule is to reduce OT" pay? If they wanted to reduce it, they can cap you at 5 8's.

It's hard to cap the majority of feeder runs at 8 hours. There are some, TDP, yard jobs, etc, but there are also many that are 10-11 hour jobs that cannot be cut to 8 without hiring a crap load of drivers.

And it is also cheaper to pay OT than it is to hire more drivers, pay their benefits, and keep everyone at 8 hours.

Yuppers, there are some feeder bids where the assigned run is only in operation for 4 days anyway. The other day of that drivers working week is spent doing "busy" work just to get the guy through his eight hours

Maybe some, but that is the exception. Most feeder jobs are 5 days.

Deal with the exceptions instead of forcing 4 10's.

 

[upschuck]

I LOVE MY 4 10's
Fact

I'd work 4 10's, if had choice.

 

[Coldworld]

The managers are told to shop ideas and see how they are received. They are also told to play union against union. Get the part timers against the full timers.

ThAts where solidarity kicks in man... if we were all one unit out there we would own Ups... fact