Still you.
Voting Starts Next Week! How will you vote and why.
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Still you.
Neanderthal
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The word strike puts fear in 80 percent of the eyes in my facility. Tack on all the looming mortgage and brand new car payments....
I see a lot of people that would probably cross a picket line in a few days
What I’m told over the phone from friends in other areas ain’t too different
I see a lot of people that would probably cross a picket line in a few days
What I’m told over the phone from friends in other areas ain’t too different
Tell them we have a strike fund. That's comes out of our dues money.
Faceplanted
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i was on the fence to be honest. After the continuous pcm about vote yes bs, and the stuff in the mail from my local to vote yes it forced my NO vote. Piss off ups and teamsters.
LagunaBrown
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Yet another fascinating post on vote no logic.
Congratulations @Tony Q. This is exactly what I was trying to tell you last night. Someone on the fence pushed into a no vote because of the aggressive campaigning and scare tactics. I hope you're happy.
LagunaBrown
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If they are making a decision on that we are all doomed anyway.
silverbullet2893
KILL KILL!!
As long as we have people like @Tony Q, who want to, and I quote, "see [us] get laid off," we are doomed.
So what you're saying is we're screwed either way.
Why do I even pay dues...smh.
LagunaBrown
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You STFU. (We can do this all day)
LagunaBrown
Well-Known Member
We are gonna be screwed by the members not the Union. Most don’t even vote. Most let right to work happen in their state. It’s embarrassing. Apathy and ignorance!
Brown Biscuit
Blind every day
silverbullet2893
KILL KILL!!
silverbullet2893
KILL KILL!!
Yeah we are gonna be screwed by the members not the Union. Most don’t even vote. Most let right to work happen in their state. It’s embarrassing. Apathy and ignorance!
LagunaBrown
Well-Known Member
I could have said it better myself.
silverbullet2893
KILL KILL!!
I could have said it better myself.
zubenelgenubi
I'm a star
Assuming 2.5% inflation over the next 5 years, 73 in 2023 is the same as 65 in 2018. How much do we cost UPS per hour now? It does truly suck that health insurance costs are so high, perhaps the major corporations should all work together with the healthcare industry to help bring those costs down. And I would rather see that extra money they are contributing to the pension go into my own pocket, but I'd be ok with them paying less into the pensions, if they need to save money somewhere. I've said elsewhere that I'm fine with subinflation wage increases for this contract.
Ok, now you have some money to work with to fix the problems with the contract. I know Teamsters doesn't want less money going to the pensions, but how is that my fault? I'm only likely to ever see a small percentage of what UPS has paid into the pension on my behalf, so don't act like the whole 73 per hour actually goes to benefit the person working for it. Heck, even with healthcare, I only benefit if I rack up more than the out of pocket costs in medical bills every year. Something my family has never done since I've been working here. Let's start looking closer at UPS's employment costs vs benefit actualized by the average employee. I'd be willing to bet the actual compensation that the average employee gets into their hands or otherwise benefits them financially will be closer to 50 to 60 dollars per hour, maybe less. Still not bad, but no one ever said it wasn't.
Neanderthal
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We are getting screwed by our own membership.
The ones that don’t attend union meetings or contract explanatory meetings do the most harm.
I would guess that is 70 percent of the membership, but even that is low balling it
How do you vote for a contract when you don’t understand or enforce the one you have now?
The company has never gone out of its way to sell a contract to this extent before, but they have reached an agreement with the union
Both parties have a vested interest in it passing - think of the cost involved in having to undergo another bargaining process or strike
The ones that don’t attend union meetings or contract explanatory meetings do the most harm.
I would guess that is 70 percent of the membership, but even that is low balling it
How do you vote for a contract when you don’t understand or enforce the one you have now?
The company has never gone out of its way to sell a contract to this extent before, but they have reached an agreement with the union
Both parties have a vested interest in it passing - think of the cost involved in having to undergo another bargaining process or strike
This is whole thing will end in a strike. Don’t say I didn’t warn you.
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