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El Correcto

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I believe that a boy can’t be a girl and a man can’t be a woman.
yeah that’s why it comes with the moniker of “trans” woman and “trans” man.
That’s not denying that there are people who feel that their “gender identity” doesn’t match their birth sex.
Yes and now look into what happens to these people as they go through puberty and what gender affirming care does for them.
 

Box Ox

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I believe that a boy can’t be a girl and a man can’t be a woman. That’s not denying that there are people who feel that their “gender identity” doesn’t match their birth sex.
yeah that’s why it comes with the moniker of “trans” woman and “trans” man.

I’ve never heard a leftist say that a trans woman isn’t a woman or a trans man isn’t a man.

Yes and now look into what happens to these people as they go through puberty and what gender affirming care does for them.

If I’d told my parents that I thought I was a fish when I was a kid, surgeries to give me gills and a tail would have been ridiculous and wouldn’t have done anything to actually help me with my incorrect impression that I was a fish.
 

Next Day Error

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I believe that a boy can’t be a girl and a man can’t be a woman. That’s not denying that there are people who feel that their “gender identity” doesn’t match their birth sex.
Your beliefs are meaningless when compared with the breadth of scientific consensus on this issue. They’re just your beliefs, that’s it.
 

Box Ox

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I believe that a boy can’t be a girl and a man can’t be a woman.
yeah that’s why it comes with the moniker of “trans” woman and “trans” man.
Your beliefs are meaningless when compared with the breadth of scientific consensus on this issue. They’re just your beliefs, that’s it.

Scientific consensus, eh? Seems you two can’t even agree on whether a boy can be a girl and a man can be a woman. Better compare your “scientific” sources.
 

El Correcto

god is dead
I’ve never heard a leftist say that a trans woman isn’t a woman or a trans man isn’t a man.



If I’d told my parents that I thought I was a fish when I was a kid, surgeries to give me gills and a tail would have been ridiculous and wouldn’t have done anything to actually help me with my incorrect impression that I was a fish.
Just because someone supports trans rights doesn’t mean they aren’t an idiot. I see a lot of people who arrive at the same conclusion for completely different reasons. I think it isn’t honest to say a trans woman is an actual woman or that a trans man is an actual man. That doesn’t mean you treat them badly or any differently than you would cis men and woman.

They are not under an incorrect impression of being trans. If there was good research and outcomes from people identified as fish receiving gills and a tail going on to live their best life, I wouldn’t give a :censored2: bud. Fish it up, get your tails get your gills, I don’t care. You want me to call you Mr. Fishy face I don’t give a single flying :censored2:.
 

Box Ox

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Fish it up, get your tails get your gills, I don’t care. You want me to call you Mr. Fishy face I don’t give a single flying :censored2:.

I’d hope that you’d want me to wait to be carved up for my gills and tail until I’m adult. Especially since you’d probably be pretty sure that I’m not even a fish in the first place. 😉
 

El Correcto

god is dead
Scientific consensus, eh? Seems you two can’t even agree on whether a boy can be a girl and a man can be a woman. Better compare your “scientific” sources.
Well for one I’m correct considering transgender healthcare revolves around gender identities that conflicting with sex. I believe the transwomen are women is more of a moral message of how you should treat transgender people than it is a scientific statement.

But you didn’t even really understand what gender is like most people on this site who throw the word around in a completely stupid manner ignorant of the difference between it and sex.
 

El Correcto

god is dead
I’d hope that you’d want me to wait to be carved up for my gills and tail until I’m adult. Especially since you’d probably be pretty sure that I’m not even a fish in the first place. 😉
You can get a tail and gills at anytime and puberty wouldn’t do lasting damages forcing you into more costly and painful surgeries, so yeah probably wouldn’t even be a consideration in your case unless you became belligerently suicidal over not being a fish.
 

Box Ox

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You can get a tail and gills at anytime and puberty wouldn’t do lasting damages forcing you into more costly and painful surgeries, so yeah probably wouldn’t even be a consideration in your case unless you became belligerently suicidal over not being a fish.

If you don’t want me to be suicidal you should probably look into whats causing me to think I’m a fish. Not make me a fish. I don’t think I’d actually be happier as a fish even if I thought I was a fish as a kid.
 

El Correcto

god is dead
If you don’t want me to be suicidal you should probably look into whats causing me to think I’m a fish.
And until the day we fully understand consciousness gender identity and come up with alternative solutions for our fishy friends, I’d support the treatment with the best outcomes for their life and their decisions.

That’s what it’s like not to be a prick forcing an objective world view onto another individual’s subjective experience in this life and wishing them the best.
 

Box Ox

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And until the day we fully understand consciousness gender identity and come up with alternative solutions for our fishy friends, I’d support the treatment with the best outcomes for their life and their decisions.

Kids’ bodies shouldn’t be part of your experiments.
 

El Correcto

god is dead
Kids’ bodies shouldn’t be part of your experiments.
Transgender youth deserve healthcare.
Parents with transgender kids deserve to be able to take their kid to a doctor and get the best treatment they possibly can.

If you think it can be done better you are really missing your life’s calling being a truck driver spewing anti-trans garbage, go to medical school.
 

Box Ox

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He is a pretty reasonable person on lgb stuff not at all on trans stuff.
He gets big mad when he realizes us lgbt people were once lgbt children.

I totally believe that you were gay as a child. Why would I have a problem with that? I’m glad you weren’t mutilated as a child because of it.
 

sailfish

Master of Karate and Friendship for Everyone
Let’s shame the kids so they have to live forever in the closet and develop feelings of isolation and worthlessness because some adults are a bunch of intolerant snowflakes
I doubt there's any little boys out there who want to wear a little girl's bathing suit that comes with a tuck pocket.
 

El Correcto

god is dead
I totally believe that you were gay as a child. Why would I have a problem with that? I’m glad you weren’t mutilated as a child because of it.
Being gay and trans are completely different I never showed signs of being transgender as a kid. I was at 0 risk of being trans, because I don’t suffer from gender dysphoria.
 

Next Day Error

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Scientific consensus, eh? Seems you two can’t even agree on whether a boy can be a girl and a man can be a woman. Better compare your “scientific” sources.
People like you are dogmatic. Doesn’t pass muster. The same kind of attitudes of the past from people that were just sure being gay was a fad or a mental disorder or could be “cured”.

Gender is fluid. Physical sex is not.
 
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