Who is Obama

paidslave

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What will obama's tax be on 75k capital gains? That's what i'm worried about.



Maybe this will help! If you make less than 250k you won't have to worry about an increase.

Obama Clarifies Scope of Capital Gains Tax Hike



August 14, 2008 7:33 PM
ABC News' Teddy Davis, Arnab Datta, and Rigel Anderson Report: Sen. Barack Obama’s, D-Ill., top economic advisors announced on Thursday that he is seeking to raise the capital gains tax rate from 15 percent to 20 percent for those Americans making more than $250,000 per year.
“The top capital-gains rate for families making more than $250,000 would return to 20% -- the lowest rate that existed in the 1990s and the rate President Bush proposed in his 2001 tax cut. A 20% rate is almost a third lower than the rate President Reagan set in 1986,” wrote Obama advisors Jason Furman and Austan Goolsbee in Thursday’s Wall Street Journal.
Thursday’s Wall Street Journal op-ed is the first time that Obama’s campaign has pinpointed the scope of his capital gains tax hike on families making more than $250,000 per year, according to Obama spokesman Bill Burton. The details on the capital gain tax hike are part of a broader economic platform that prioritizes tax relief for middle-class families over deficit reduction.
 

paidslave

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Hey check this out. No corporation will ever pay Federal Income tax they will always pass this cost on to the consumer. That ought to open up the flood gates.



Correct, go shopping and see how much things cost probably double than a few years ago!

We are in a serious mess.....thanks mr. president!
 

1989

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Wow, the market will be up big tomorrow because of the government control of Freddie Mac and Fannie Mae. I hope it goes down big on Tuesday. This could be the beginning of the end of the nice volitility we 've had.
 

paidslave

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Amazing the Dems resorting to blatant sexism. Well, actually it's not amazing. Keeps them from having to answer the real questions.

Why did Obama vote "present" over 130 times?

What does he really feel about those 130 issues?

Why can't Dems see that he has no experience?

Why can't Dems see that he has no credibility?

Why can't Dems see that his great speeches have no substance?

Why did he listen to a racist preacher for 20 years?

Why does he call that man his "spiritual mentor"?

Does Paidslave think that large, colorful type makes one right???


Does running overnine five help the companys bottom line? Punch out and quit millking the clock.

Large colorful types only helps lead the blind!

Instead of making a mistake he voted "present" very simple! Maybe you should take regard.

If you don't know for sure shut the trap instead of look like an idiot later!
 

av8torntn

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Yes you are correct. Why should a wage earning making 75k yearly pay the same tax as someone making 250k? The old saying goes the rich get richer and the poor get poorer and this will continue if McCain gets in office. Bushenomics is not working with 6.5% unemployment! Employers have no problem exploiting workers and I should worry about having them taxed higher after they exploited as many workers as they can? I don't know what you do for a living but being here on bc most are blue collar workers for the working class and not for the rich so I think you are Trolling here trying to push off your errogant idealogy on middle wage class earners. How much do you make a year? I make 75k if I am lucky so why would I vote for John McCain if he is ownly giving tax breaks to the top percent wage earners, I would be a fool or just plain ignorant?

I will tell you why. You should not punish someone for being successful. I say lets make the successful people pay a lower percentage than the people that are failures. This would be a great incentive to pick your tired self up out of bed and get to work.

Oh just kidding I don't think anyone should have to pay income tax. So don't get your panties all in a bunch.

Not that it is any of your business but my earnings last year were 113000. I will likely make a bit less than that this year due to being bumped off my route and taking one with fewer hours.

82000 and some change from big brown. The rest from me taking risks and have them pay off. In my world people like you are foolish. You want higher taxes so the Government can take care of your every need. The problem is you could do a better job than the government does. The even bigger problem I have is you guys do not even have the guts to try and amend the constitution for your government health care programs or retirement programs or education programs or energy programs or farming programs. You just steal from me and I am far from rich. I would like to be wealthy one day and with a little luck and a lot of hard work if the government stays out of my way I will make it. You come across as the type of person that will just sit around and expect someone else to take care of you and your family. I really do not care if I am right or wrong about you so do not bother to reply I could care less what union, gang or political party you belong to in the end it likely will not affect my life.

I have turned down much higher paying jobs than UPS and they were all non union. I know I am stupid but I work at UPS because I enjoy my job. I could care less if it were union or not. I feel I will be successful no matter what I do. I do not feel anyone owes me a job and most certainly not the federal government.

You did get one thing right I am arrogant. I think that is what you meant. I am also confident, and highly motivated. I'm not sure what this has to do with anything.

You asked why you should vote for McCain. I have no answer to that. I will tell you if you cared about other people you would seek out a candidate that believed in the constitution. You would seek out someone that would kill social security as this will only punish the youth. You would look for someone that would cut all federal money out of the health care system as this only drives up the costs of health care. You would look for a candidate that would eliminate the minimum wage as this only serves to price workers out of the labor market. I can keep going but you get the point. I think. Well since no one does you should seek out someone who believes the constitution exists to limit the government not limit the freedoms of its citizens. That is what I believe and look for in a candidate since I am arrogant I know I am right.

I am starting to enjoy doing what you guys do. I think it is fun to oversimplify an issue and then slap broad labels on people. Thanks Diesel and Mac and Jones for showing me the light.

You say employers exploit workers. Why do you not seek employment somewhere that does not exploit or better yet start your own business on the model of non exploitation?

You say Bush tax policies are not working. Why then is B. Hussein saying today that if we are in a recession he would leave the Bush tax cuts in place? Something for you to think about. I am pretty sure you will not come to the right answer but I will give you a chance.
 
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over9five

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Staff member
I see Slave doesn't want to tackle those questions, just as Obama wont.

I also think the large, colorful type is what makes one look like an idiot.


(Instead of making a mistake, he votes "present"????) That ..... I just don't know how to respond. Is that how he would run the country?
 

over9five

Moderator
Staff member
I apologize for my last post. I allowed Paidslave to bring me down to his level of namecalling. Please forgive the "idiot" reference.
 

paidslave

Well-Known Member
I apologize for my last post. I allowed Paidslave to bring me down to his level of namecalling. Please forgive the "idiot" reference.


Apology accepted only if you take your bold hilary was right campaign down on every one of your post! But better yet if that is what you believe than so be it!
 

paidslave

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I will tell you why. You should not punish someone for being successful. I say lets make the successful people pay a lower percentage than the people that are failures. This would be a great incentive to pick your tired self up out of bed and get to work.

Oh just kidding I don't think anyone should have to pay income tax. So don't get your panties all in a bunch.

Not that it is any of your business but my earnings last year were 113000. I will likely make a bit less than that this year due to being bumped off my route and taking one with fewer hours.

82000 and some change from big brown. The rest from me taking risks and have them pay off. In my world people like you are foolish. You want higher taxes so the Government can take care of your every need. The problem is you could do a better job than the government does. The even bigger problem I have is you guys do not even have the guts to try and amend the constitution for your government health care programs or retirement programs or education programs or energy programs or farming programs. You just steal from me and I am far from rich. I would like to be wealthy one day and with a little luck and a lot of hard work if the government stays out of my way I will make it. You come across as the type of person that will just sit around and expect someone else to take care of you and your family. I really do not care if I am right or wrong about you so do not bother to reply I could care less what union, gang or political party you belong to in the end it likely will not affect my life.

I have turned down much higher paying jobs than UPS and they were all non union. I know I am stupid but I work at UPS because I enjoy my job. I could care less if it were union or not. I feel I will be successful no matter what I do. I do not feel anyone owes me a job and most certainly not the federal government.

You did get one thing right I am arrogant. I think that is what you meant. I am also confident, and highly motivated. I'm not sure what this has to do with anything.

You asked why you should vote for McCain. I have no answer to that. I will tell you if you cared about other people you would seek out a candidate that believed in the constitution. You would seek out someone that would kill social security as this will only punish the youth. You would look for someone that would cut all federal money out of the health care system as this only drives up the costs of health care. You would look for a candidate that would eliminate the minimum wage as this only serves to price workers out of the labor market. I can keep going but you get the point. I think. Well since no one does you should seek out someone who believes the constitution exists to limit the government not limit the freedoms of its citizens. That is what I believe and look for in a candidate since I am arrogant I know I am right.

I am starting to enjoy doing what you guys do. I think it is fun to oversimplify an issue and then slap broad labels on people. Thanks Diesel and Mac and Jones for showing me the light.

You say employers exploit workers. Why do you not seek employment somewhere that does not exploit or better yet start your own business on the model of non exploitation?

You say Bush tax policies are not working. Why then is B. Hussein saying today that if we are in a recession he would leave the Bush tax cuts in place? Something for you to think about. I am pretty sure you will not come to the right answer but I will give you a chance.



All I am for: if this country has done something for you making mega bucks then give back to your country that you pronounce to love instead of being a dollar monger! You sound very young and my tax dollars probably paid for you education growing up so start paying your fair share back to who paid for you growing up pal! You are one of the most greedy persons I have came acrosss in a long time! The old saying goes if you want lobster pay for lobster but at the same time pay the guy who catches it!

And for caring that you are Union or not? They should get rid of minimum wage and pay you whatever they feel like it because many many immigrants would deliver your route for a lot less then 100k a year as you stated you make!

You don't make any sense in your last post! You should be proud that you are Union and making what you are making because someone stood up and the only thing you stand up for is yourself! You are a typical narccisist in love with yourself!
 
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av8torntn

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All I am for: if this country has done something for you making mega bucks then give back to your country that you pronounce to love instead of being a dollar monger! You sound very young and my tax dollars probably paid for you education growing up so start paying your fair share back to who paid for you growing up pal! You are one of the most greedy persons I have came acrosss in a long time! The old saying goes if you want lobster pay for lobster but at the same time pay the guy who catches it!


Why do you get to decide how someone gives back to this country? I say if someone has made mega buck like you say they must have already given something. Started a successful business? Employed many people? Provided needed goods and services?

Yes you did pay for part of my higher education. I spent four years in our Army. I used the GI bill and worked part time at UPS. Thanks for that by the way. Those were five good years. :happy2:

You are one not one of the most greedy people I have come across. You are the most greedy person I have ever heard from. We have not met and likely would not get along if we did. All you want to do is take what is not yours. You have the attitude that since we as citizens allow the government to exist we somehow owe them everything we earn. That is pitiful.

You want me to give up my freedoms because you fear freedom.
 

paidslave

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Why do you get to decide how someone gives back to this country? I say if someone has made mega buck like you say they must have already given something. Started a successful business? Employed many people? Provided needed goods and services?

Yes you did pay for part of my higher education. I spent four years in our Army. I used the GI bill and worked part time at UPS. Thanks for that by the way. Those were five good years. :happy2:

You are one not one of the most greedy people I have come across. You are the most greedy person I have ever heard from. We have not met and likely would not get along if we did. All you want to do is take what is not yours. You have the attitude that since we as citizens allow the government to exist we somehow owe them everything we earn. That is pitiful.

You want me to give up my freedoms because you fear freedom.

I didn't take the FREE GI bill. I paid for your GI bill while I was working and you were in school milking the system and I have never complained about it. I paid every penny of my education not you or any TAX payer. I have also paid your FREE salary paid by me while you were in the Army and all I get is what you now make is yours? Wow I am amazed to hear someone say get rid of all income taxes now that you have milked the tax payers for your benefit but keep what is yours? I know all too well about your type and yes we wouldn't get along!

As you claim getting rid of all income tax you are so right so pay back your GI bill to me and we will be even!

Your colors are coming threw nice and bright! If you recall correctly it was the Democrats that supported your GI bill in the first place! So you are right I am turning Republican and the heck with all of you double talking con-artist!

President George W. Bush has threatened to veto the new G.I. Bill. No President in history has ever vetoed a benefits bill for those who served!

That is the thanks you got from the democrats and not your president!
 
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1989

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I didn't take the FREE GI bill. I paid for your GI bill while I was working and you were in school milking the system and I have never complained about it. I paid every penny of my education not you or any TAX payer. I have also paid your FREE salary paid by me while you were in the Army and all I get is what you now make is yours? Wow I am amazed to hear someone say get rid of all income taxes now that you have milked the tax payers for your benefit but keep what is yours? I know all too well about your type and yes we wouldn't get along!

As you claim getting rid of all income tax you are so right so pay back your GI bill to me and we will be even!

Your colors are coming threw nice and bright! If you recall correctly it was the Democrats that supported your GI bill in the first place! So you are right I am turning Republican and the heck with all of you double talking con-artist!


I believe his army pay and GI bill was part of his compensation package. Without that we wouldn't have a volunteer army.
 

tieguy

Banned
Does running overnine five help the companys bottom line? Punch out and quit millking the clock.

Large colorful types only helps lead the blind!

Instead of making a mistake he voted "present" very simple! Maybe you should take regard.

If you don't know for sure shut the trap instead of look like an idiot later!

a president should be a man of conviction a leader. Over9 is right simply voting present 130 times does not a man of conviction obama make.
 

av8torntn

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As you claim getting rid of all income tax you are so right so pay back your GI bill to me and we will be even!

Your colors are coming threw nice and bright!

Sure sweetheart. I will pay you the money I received from the GI bill. You just give me all the money I paid in taxes over the years. As a matter of fact we can make that trade as many times as you want. I will also offer you my entire salary while I was in the service and you give me in turn the money I was making when I left no raises I will be a little kind. The problem with you is I would have joined the service for free but they would not let me. But since you are offering back it up. I will bring cash can you? Like I said you just get your big government out of my way and I will be even more successful. You can just sit in the corner and be scared but I love freedom I even crave freedom. Yes I am selfish and greedy with my freedom. I will defend my freedom as actively as you try to steal it.
 

paidslave

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I believe his army pay and GI bill was part of his compensation package. Without that we wouldn't have a volunteer army.

His compensation package I have no problem with its his attitude now that has gotten him in trouble. He feels now that we should no longer have INCOME tax now that we have paid his way!

If tie -guy or anyone else here doesn't see a problem with this then so be it?
 

tieguy

Banned
I didn't take the FREE GI bill. I paid for your GI bill while I was working and you were in school milking the system and I have never complained about it. I paid every penny of my education not you or any TAX payer. I have also paid your FREE salary paid by me while you were in the Army and all I get is what you now make is yours? Wow I am amazed to hear someone say get rid of all income taxes now that you have milked the tax payers for your benefit but keep what is yours? I know all too well about your type and yes we wouldn't get along!

As you claim getting rid of all income tax you are so right so pay back your GI bill to me and we will be even!

Your colors are coming threw nice and bright! If you recall correctly it was the Democrats that supported your GI bill in the first place! So you are right I am turning Republican and the heck with all of you double talking con-artist!

Paidslave thats pretty bad. You should never put down the contribution of those who served our country just to try to win a lousy MB argument.
Over9 you should delete his post. Its every bit as offensive as any post with profanity.
 

paidslave

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Sure sweetheart. I will pay you the money I received from the GI bill. You just give me all the money I paid in taxes over the years. As a matter of fact we can make that trade as many times as you want. I will also offer you my entire salary while I was in the service and you give me in turn the money I was making when I left no raises I will be a little kind. The problem with you is I would have joined the service for free but they would not let me. But since you are offering back it up. I will bring cash can you? Like I said you just get your big government out of my way and I will be even more successful. You can just sit in the corner and be scared but I love freedom I even crave freedom. Yes I am selfish and greedy with my freedom. I will defend my freedom as actively as you try to steal it.


Get the government out of your way? You joined them not me, for your free GI bill for your higher pompous free education! Pay it back and leave me out of it.......

You are right get the government out of my way, so get out of my way and tell your comrads to join for free like you wanted to! You seem very generous with your time so you should deliver packages for free to and give if back too rightly who employs you!
 

av8torntn

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Get the government out of your way? You joined them not me for your free GI bill for your hight pompous higher education!

You are right get the government out of my way, so get out of my way and tell your comrads to join for free like you wanted to! You seem very generous with your time so you should deliver packages for free to and give if back to who employs you!

Negative old timer. I joined the Army because that was the choice I made. Something you fail to grasp. I chose to give up my time, and freedom to join the Army. In trade for that I got to be part of the best organization in the world. That would be similar to how a free market would work. A willing buyer and seller meet in the market and make an exchange.
 

paidslave

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Paidslave thats pretty bad. You should never put down the contribution of those who served our country just to try to win a lousy MB argument.
Over9 you should delete his post. Its every bit as offensive as any post with profanity.

He served this country because he wanted to not because the government did nor did i tell him...If you followed his post he is for no income tax when income tax paid his way. I have no problem with that. There is no profanity just simple facts in which the tax payers paid for his services and now he wants no income taxes for the rest of the people who would consider a life in the military but now he doesn't want to pay any of his sawbucks back...Sorry but this is insulting to people who paid his way!
 
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