6th punch

What did SOB get for giving up 6 punch during peak?

  • Nothing

    Votes: 15 55.6%
  • Something

    Votes: 4 14.8%
  • Something for himself

    Votes: 8 29.6%

  • Total voters
    27

TheBrownNote

Good thing I wore my brown pants
but we are obligated to follow the direction of the IBT on this issue that affects Teamsters across the country."

We are obligated to follow the contract just like UPS. The contract spells it out and UPS failed to follow through on their duty, obligation, and reponsibilities to staff with in the alotted time.

The only thing that MOE from SOB should read is, "it is or understanding that UPS failed to staff properly in the alotted time. Looks like peak will be difficult for that management team, as there is no 6th punch for RPCD. Happy Holidays!"
 

10:30 resi

Well-Known Member
We are obligated to follow the contract just like UPS. The contract spells it out and UPS failed to follow through on their duty, obligation, and reponsibilities to staff with in the alotted time.

The only thing that MOE from SOB should read is, "it is or understanding that UPS failed to staff properly in the alotted time. Looks like peak will be difficult for that management team, as there is no 6th punch for RPCD. Happy Holidays!"
I have doubts how much responsibility the IBT really has for this situation vs. the local just making them scapegoats.

To play devil's advocate, I think with the way the original MOU and the wording in article 11 combine make the process a little less black and white than that. If there is no agreement between the local and the company within 60 days of ratification of the contract "the matter may be referred to the Co-Chairs of the National Negotiating Committee or their designees for resolution." ... "and any forced 6th punches will end immediately upon resolution."

I have heard no rumor of an additional MOU like @some1else is talking about. Sounds far fetched to me. Putting something like that thru would be a great way to lose a lot of right to work members.

I have heard from a source, who Obama will not let me name, that SOB said to expect a "resolution" by end of this week. I'm not holding my breath.
 

Analbumcover

ControlPkgs
I'm a little confused by some people's stance on 6th day punch. Many on here complain about having a 6th day punch and don't want to be subjected to it, then peak rolls around and suddenly they're asking ,"where's my 6th day punch"??

Seriously. I was amazed how many senior drivers signed up for our voluntary Saturday list this peak. These were also the same guys that complained about being forced last year and were mopping the bathroom floors at 5pm on a Saturday to get their 8.

I mean to each his own but management has already said that the Saturday peak routes will include the areas of routes that are not in to ensure everyone gets the work they want. I guess I should thank the old-timers for cleaning up my area while I sleep on Saturday....
 
We got a PCM specifically acknowledging that we can not be forced….but to please volunteer
Union negotiated to allow other Centers in our Local who do not have Saturday ground delivery to volunteer to work a 6th punch at our building and to also allow air drivers to volunteer to deliver ground on Saturdays. Not sure how many takers the company is going to get.
 

10:30 resi

Well-Known Member
We got a PCM specifically acknowledging that we can not be forced….but to please volunteer
We got that PCM... Then the local told us that it is the guidance of the IBT to report on sixth days if scheduled. I have called the IBT package division to ask why they are advising members to work on a sixth day. The IBT says they are aware of what is going on but it is a issue the local has to deal with and to call them. Seems like these two organizations are more worried about affixing blame than working to solve our problem. I am sure the company loves to see this.

I told the lady in the package division that I spoke to that Sean O'Brien ran on the promise that he would eliminate the forced sixth punch nationwide, not that he would turn it into a local to local issue, and that now I want to know how his administration plans to fulfill his promise and enforce the gains in the new contract. She took my # so someone could call me back, but I guess the IBT has no answers as I have yet to receive a call.
 

Thebrownblob

Well-Known Member
Rumor is yesterday labor told management in our building to force all drivers in for a sixth punch thru peak
@21Savage
Sounds like a weak local, it’s not shocking that labor on the company side would try to get away with whatever local would allow. I’ve seen many labor managers have their ass handed to them at panels and JACs
 
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BigUnionGuy

Got the T-Shirt
Union negotiated to allow other Centers in our Local who do not have Saturday ground delivery to volunteer to work a 6th punch at our building and to also allow air drivers to volunteer to deliver ground on Saturdays. Not sure how many takers the company is going to get.

How do you know that ?

Were you a part of those negotiations ?
 

Coldworld

Well-Known Member
How do you know that ?

Were you a part of those negotiations ?
You know how it goes….everybody knows someone high up in the union that had direct knowledge or were involved in the negotiations…. Just like every customer knows a manager that is a “higher-up” in the company ….. everybody seems to know some big wig…
 
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