Brownslave688
You want a toe? I can get you a toe.
It's 11 hours of actual time behind the wheel driving. Even in the extremely rare case that it happened it would be almost impossible to prove.
70 Hour Rule, Merry Christmas
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Brownslave688
You want a toe? I can get you a toe.
Johney
Pineapple King
You may be. The way I read that is someone driving non stop on a highway much like feeder just with no CDL. That isn't going to happen in package you clearly can not drive a package car for 11 hours total you stop far too much.
Brownslave688
You want a toe? I can get you a toe.
For some guys yeah. Not me personally our center manager wants us under 12 every day.
But I have plenty of buddies that have worked within a minute or two before or after 14 hours Monday- Thursday and before the 70 hour rule had to be off really early Friday.
Brownslave688
You want a toe? I can get you a toe.
That's the correct interpretation. It's been covered plenty of times over the last 5 years.
Brownslave688
You want a toe? I can get you a toe.
I'm interested into the reasoning behind why you feel this way.
What part of the law is violated?
Star B
White Lightening
I would argue it's 11 hours from on-road to off-road, MINUS breaks, as long as you stay under 14. I've pulled the plug at 10.75 hours to make it back and off the road by 11. I don't need some state cop with a superiority complex looking at my simple time card and asking "oh, but how long were you stopped?" Unless you pull telematics.... you couldn't prove to the cop the time you weren't driving... so I'll take it safe and stop at 10.76h of "on road" time, because I haven't heard from my employer (who would have something to gain) to state that "11 hours of driving but you get one minute credit for every delivery, so if you had 120 stops, you could drive for 13 hours but not on the clock for no more than 14.
Brownslave688
You want a toe? I can get you a toe.
If that were the law it would say no driving after 11 hours.
Management has made it pretty clear to us that no package car driver ever has to worry about the 11 hour law.
MyTripisCut
Never bought my own handtruck
Because they wouldn’t lie to us right?
dookie stain
Cornfed whiteboy
Not sure what y’all are arguin for...whether ups is breaking the law or not which I don’t think they are...the union isn’t doing anything to help us and by the time they did christmas is over and ups gets their way...just work slow..not saying it doesn’t suck
Brownslave688
You want a toe? I can get you a toe.
They have to pay the fine also. They don't want us violating
MyTripisCut
Never bought my own handtruck
So, the question would be, regardless of DOT laws. Is it safe to deliver for 11-14 hours a day, for 5-6 days a week, in a package car, and then drive back to the building?
And what if you got a long commute home? Guess that doesn't matter.
Jackburton
Gone Fish'n
All that matters is Feeders the dog gets his $80 bag of dog food.
How are you supposed to get 8 hours of sleep, eat, get ready for work????
MyTripisCut
Never bought my own handtruck
Quickly?
Jackburton
Gone Fish'n
Do all that on weekends.
I'm being serious. It's not like people on occasion are working long hours. How can you.be safe and productive if you are worn out and miserable?
