OrionsBitch

Not...
Here is how to get out of working 70 hours a week.

First establish an LLC in your name.

Second get a vehicle and have it designated commercial.

Third pretend you run a delivery service and log some hours/miles. Example. You delivered a pie your wife made to a relatives house for a fee of $1.

Fourth make sure to log hours within official DOT guidelines. This will be important for tax purposes. It's also important to let your family members and friend know that way you have an alibi if DOT wants to check out your business.

Fifth now that you've read all of this and wasted your time thinking this would actually work.....please come back to earth because your :censored2:ed like the rest of us unless the union does something.

Congratulations you are a sucker.
 

burrheadd

KING Of GIFS
All these sups from out of state that are coming to “save” us are great...show up in their brand new uniforms...with their 30 days of driving experience from 18 years ago...acting like they’re gonna help us...yea ok Melvin hope you enjoy your 30 stops over the next 13 hours see you tonight you can help me
Unload all my missed business.

Roll got damn tide!!
 

Jackburton

Gone Fish'n
Here is how to get out of working 70 hours a week.

First establish an LLC in your name.

Second get a vehicle and have it designated commercial.

Third pretend you run a delivery service and log some hours/miles. Example. You delivered a pie your wife made to a relatives house for a fee of $1.

Fourth make sure to log hours within official DOT guidelines. This will be important for tax purposes. It's also important to let your family members and friend know that way you have an alibi if DOT wants to check out your business.

Fifth now that you've read all of this and wasted your time thinking this would actually work.....please come back to earth because your :censored2:ed like the rest of us unless the union does something.

Congratulations you are a sucker.
Or simply drive for Uber on Saturday.
 

olroadbeech

Happy Verified UPSer
Supervisors are under the same DOT rules as the rest of us are.
that's true but they don't adhere to those rules because they think they need to help the company.

I have seen supes violate DOT regs dozens of times at our Reno hub because of all the snowstorms, drivers running out of hours, and so forth.

some of them brag about working 24 straight hours or more and when i called them on the violations they say......"we do what we have to do."

just more BS.
 

olroadbeech

Happy Verified UPSer
I brought up the exact same argument to my center manager and he said that UPS legal had approved it. Today our local union and the union bosses for NorCal are meeting with UPS management and lawyers for both sides to decide on a definitive answer. To much gray area if you ask me. I worked 82 hours in 8 days and on my calendar Monday to Monday is 8 days.
grey area?????

there should be no grey area.

it's simple math. and it's a federal law. UPS can not supercede the feds.
 

Rick Ross

I'm into distribution!!
I posted this earlier. If some of you flowers are too delicate, take an extra hour before or two of meal and sleep during your 14.

If you're as exhausted as you claim it won't be an issue falling asleep. Drivers do it all the time in feeders. If management bitches tell them you felt unsafe to drive.
 

Dracula

Package Car is cake compared to this...
Not if you're a package car driver.


Quit spreading false information

Oh, okay. I guess the DOT doesn't apply to package car drivers. Curious, then why there is such a fuss about the DOT rule of 70/8, which is a DOT rule. But Brownslave knows best.
 

MAKAVELI

Well-Known Member
I posted this earlier. If some of you flowers are too delicate, take an extra hour before or two of meal and sleep during your 14.

If you're as exhausted as you claim it won't be an issue falling asleep. Drivers do it all the time in feeders. If management bitches tell them you felt unsafe to drive.
Why anyone would even think of working 14 hours straight with no break is beyond me.
 

Dracula

Package Car is cake compared to this...
I'm being serious. It's not like people on occasion are working long hours. How can you.be safe and productive if you are worn out and miserable?

It doesn't matter, apparently, because the law doesn't apply to package car drivers.
 

Brownslave688

You want a toe? I can get you a toe.
Oh, okay. I guess the DOT doesn't apply to package car drivers. Curious, then why there is such a fuss about the DOT rule of 70/8, which is a DOT rule. But Brownslave knows best.



You've yet to explain how it's breaking DOT law.


You're allowed to work up to 14 hours a day (actually you can work more you just can't drive after 14) 14x5=70.


I mean this is really simple stuff.
 

Brownslave688

You want a toe? I can get you a toe.
Why anyone would even think of working 14 hours straight with no break is beyond me.
Depends on the route. I've done a few rural routes that I can do with pretty easy with only taking my 10 paid. Which means you'd be paid for every second of the day
 
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