Air Driving Question

Brownt10

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I’m a full time 22.3 along with 3 other full time 22.3’s in my building & all of our bids say “PL/Air Delivery”.

There are also 4 PT bid air drivers (not exception drivers) that work mornings.

Everyday there are usually 4 Air runs they put on road, used to be 8. The company puts the 4 PT bid air drivers out on road everyday & those drivers work past their 3 1/2 guarantee. Us FT 22.3’s work preload & then do housekeeping such as rack mail bags & sweep or wash trucks if we have any other trucks (car wash not in any of our bids btw)

My argument is that those 4 air runs should be given or at the very least offered to us Ft 22.3’s bc that’s on our bids & it’s our higher earnings. The whole purpose of the 22.3’s was to increase full time jobs.

I’ve addressed this with the stewards in my building & my BA. They are siding with the way the company is currently doing this.

I’ve contacted a steward in another building in my state in my local bc I’ve worked out of other centers so I can compare buildings & the steward told me things are being run the opposite in his building. In fact their pt bid air drivers are laid off most days & working preload instead. The full time 22.3 they have goes out everyday with an air run after preload. The pt air drivers still go to the airport but do no deliveries. I’ve told my stewards this & they relayed that to the BA & the BA gave some stupid answer.

Any thoughts?

Btw I work in the most anti union building in my state, contract is almost non existent & only parts of it get enforced.
 

Brownwind

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I’m a full time 22.3 along with 3 other full time 22.3’s in my building & all of our bids say “PL/Air Delivery”.

There are also 4 PT bid air drivers (not exception drivers) that work mornings.

Everyday there are usually 4 Air runs they put on road, used to be 8. The company puts the 4 PT bid air drivers out on road everyday & those drivers work past their 3 1/2 guarantee. Us FT 22.3’s work preload & then do housekeeping such as rack mail bags & sweep or wash trucks if we have any other trucks (car wash not in any of our bids btw)

My argument is that those 4 air runs should be given or at the very least offered to us Ft 22.3’s bc that’s on our bids & it’s our higher earnings. The whole purpose of the 22.3’s was to increase full time jobs.

I’ve addressed this with the stewards in my building & my BA. They are siding with the way the company is currently doing this.

I’ve contacted a steward in another building in my state in my local bc I’ve worked out of other centers so I can compare buildings & the steward told me things are being run the opposite in his building. In fact their pt bid air drivers are laid off most days & working preload instead. The full time 22.3 they have goes out everyday with an air run after preload. The pt air drivers still go to the airport but do no deliveries. I’ve told my stewards this & they relayed that to the BA & the BA gave some stupid answer.

Any thoughts?

Btw I work in the most anti union building in my state, contract is almost non existent & only parts of it get enforced.
Pt is shuttling to the airport when a ft driver is available? Check the air language in your supplement.

Get your eight hours.
 

Bubblehead

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I’m a full time 22.3 along with 3 other full time 22.3’s in my building & all of our bids say “PL/Air Delivery”.

There are also 4 PT bid air drivers (not exception drivers) that work mornings.

Everyday there are usually 4 Air runs they put on road, used to be 8. The company puts the 4 PT bid air drivers out on road everyday & those drivers work past their 3 1/2 guarantee. Us FT 22.3’s work preload & then do housekeeping such as rack mail bags & sweep or wash trucks if we have any other trucks (car wash not in any of our bids btw)

My argument is that those 4 air runs should be given or at the very least offered to us Ft 22.3’s bc that’s on our bids & it’s our higher earnings. The whole purpose of the 22.3’s was to increase full time jobs.

I’ve addressed this with the stewards in my building & my BA. They are siding with the way the company is currently doing this.

I’ve contacted a steward in another building in my state in my local bc I’ve worked out of other centers so I can compare buildings & the steward told me things are being run the opposite in his building. In fact their pt bid air drivers are laid off most days & working preload instead. The full time 22.3 they have goes out everyday with an air run after preload. The pt air drivers still go to the airport but do no deliveries. I’ve told my stewards this & they relayed that to the BA & the BA gave some stupid answer.

Any thoughts?

Btw I work in the most anti union building in my state, contract is almost non existent & only parts of it get enforced.
Are you receiving your 8 hour guarantee?

....and what contractual language prohibits the Company from altering the job content of your 22.3 job when work has been eliminated?
 

Brownt10

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Are you receiving your 8 hour guarantee?

....and what contractual language prohibits the Company from altering the job content of your 22.3 job when work has been eliminated?
The work clearly hasn’t been eliminated if they are using pt air drivers to deliver air

So what if I’m getting my 8 hours? The pt air drivers are only guaranteed 3 1/2 so they could stand there with a broom instead while I deliver air
 

Brownt10

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Pt is shuttling to the airport when a ft driver is available? Check the air language in your supplement.

Get your eight hours.
Not the airport I’m concerned about. The pt air drivers go out with a full air route of 20-30 stops plus they get to go grab misloads/LIB bc only those assigned a route for the day can go deliver anything. Meanwhile me & the ft 22.3’s are basically custodians from 0900-1300 when air delivery is in our bid so we should be entitled to that work
 

Brownt10

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Are you receiving your 8 hour guarantee?

....and what contractual language prohibits the Company from altering the job content of your 22.3 job when work has been eliminated?
 

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Bubblehead

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The work clearly hasn’t been eliminated if they are using pt air drivers to deliver air

So what if I’m getting my 8 hours? The pt air drivers are only guaranteed 3 1/2 so they could stand there with a broom instead while I deliver air
You said there used to be 8 runs, now there's 4, so work has "clearly" been eliminated.

So what if you're getting your 8 hours you say?

Because it is all you are guaranteed in your 22.3 bid (like it or not).

....and (again) what contractual language prohibits the Company from altering the job content of your 22.3 job when work has been eliminated?
 

BigUnionGuy

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Said it’s not the same when I know for a fact it is the same exact scenario bc I’m in communication with members of that building where the 22.3’s are going out with air routes & pt bid drivers stay in do preload & act as custodians to get their 3 1/2

That doesn’t answer my specific question of what the BA actually said.

You haven’t personally talked with him ? The language you posted looks

supplemental and 1c references Article 40. (The controlling language)


and (again) what contractual language prohibits the Company from altering the job content of your 22.3 job when work has been eliminated?

“Based on facts presented…. No contract violation.”
 

Bubblehead

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So in other words a full time 22.3 has seniority over a pt time air drivers stay in when it comes to delivering air?

You were getting closer to the answer (you don't want to hear) when you posted this contractual language.

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Which is also predicated by the preamble of Article 40 as superceding other language in the NM, supplements and riders.

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Article 40 clearly outlines that part-time employees absolutely can deliver and shuttle air packages in many scenarios.
 

Bubblehead

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Said it’s not the same when I know for a fact it is the same exact scenario bc I’m in communication with members of that building where the 22.3’s are going out with air routes & pt bid drivers stay in do preload & act as custodians to get their 3 1/2
Here's the difference as I see it.

The other building is being managed better than yours, as that scenario is likely cheaper by virtue of elimating a PT air driver from top scale pay and having them work at their inside rate.

The part you aren't going to like (again); is that it isn't a violation of the contract to mismanage the operation.

....but maybe you could point that out to them?
 
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